Episode · Jul 17, 2026 · 2 hr 6 min
From $1 Paychecks to World Champion
with Regis Prograis
Regis 'Rougarou' Prograis is a two-time world champion who started boxing late and rebuilt his career after Hurricane Katrina.
“when you scared of something, do it.”
Summary
Ken and Regis begin with retirement and Regis's interest in training for other combat sports. Regis looks back on growing up in New Orleans, starting boxing later than many competitors, and losing his family's home when Hurricane Katrina hit. He describes starting over in Houston, earning confidence through amateur tournaments, and selling tickets to fund early professional fights. Signing with Lou DiBella led to a run of televised knockouts, but an eye injury and money problems changed the pace of his career.
Regis retraces the fights that brought him two world titles, including bouts with Josh Taylor and later Devin Haney, while discussing managers, contracts, injuries, and time away during the pandemic. He says the Conor Benn fight came when he was exhausted and did not want to enter the ring. Walking in anyway let him leave boxing on his own terms. Ken and Regis finish on retirement, new businesses, fatherhood, and how he wants to raise his children.
Show notes
Two-time world champion Regis 'Rougarou' Prograis built his career the hard way.
He started boxing late, lost everything when Hurricane Katrina destroyed his family's home, sold tickets to fund his early professional career, and eventually fought his way to the top of the sport, becoming a two-time world champion.
But behind the belts was a very different story.
Regis opens up about paying opponents just to get fights, rebuilding his life after Katrina, career-threatening injuries, management battles, devastating losses, and why he knew his career was coming to an end long before he officially retired.
Most importantly, he shares something few elite fighters ever admit: before his final fight against Conor Benn, he didn't want to step into the ring. He was scared, mentally exhausted, and hoping something would happen so he wouldn't have to fight.
Instead, he walked anyway.
In this conversation, Regis explains why facing that fear ultimately gave him the peace to leave boxing on his own terms.
Transcript
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Ken Rideout
All right, today's special guest, one of my good friends and I think one of the best guys in the hurt business in all of combat sports, the great Rougarou Regis Prograis.
Regis Prograis
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Ken Rideout
Good to have you, brother. It's good to see you.
Regis Prograis
Nice to see you, too, bro.
Ken Rideout
I guess you're moving up to light heavy.
Regis Prograis
Nah, I'm done. I am getting bigger. I look at myself on camera. Damn, I am getting bigger. No, I'm I'm done with it, bro. I'm done with it.
Ken Rideout
You look good. You look happy. No, no more fights.
Regis Prograis
I do miss fighting. Yeah.
I don't want to box no more for sure.
I I've been doing some like jiu-jitsu training, MMA.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Regis Prograis
Or maybe a bare knuckle thing maybe. But for like I don't want to do it as a professional more. I'm done with that. I I might just like do it just to do it because I do miss fighting. But at my house, I do host sparring. Like on set when I when I'm back in Texas, I will host sparring. So I'll get in there with the guys sometimes. So maybe that's my itch. I can get that itch out the way. As far as professional boxing, I'm done with that for sure.
Ken Rideout
Yeah. Well, I know another guy who said he was done with boxing and realized the hard way that it wasn't done with him, and that's my good friend, another uh Louisiana guy, and that's um the great Dustin Poirier.
Regis Prograis
Really? He wanted to go into it.
Ken Rideout
Well, he's having a hard time, you know. I don't know if you saw he got arrested. Yeah. Poor guy. He's like you. I love the guy. He's like a good friend. And um it's just tough to see him struggling. And I'm just wondering, have you like given any thought to talking to someone about the transition? Because, you know, when you identify as a fighter for as long as you have and you're the best in the world,
Regis Prograis
Right?
Ken Rideout
It's got to be hard to step away and feel like you're not the p that same guy anymore.
Regis Prograis
Right. It I feel like it is, but I one thing I always didn't want to be I didn't want to be those older guys that was just all beat up.
That's right. That's one thing I I mean, so it is I think it's it's harder, but I didn't want to be I don't want to walk away when you get beat out the business. That's the thing. I didn't want to get beat out. I want to walk I want to walk away on my own terms. And a lot of fighters, they don't. They keep they they go back and um I go to these the Hall of Fame weekends.
Ken Rideout
Yep.
Regis Prograis
And man, it's sad to see these legends and they just beat up. They real beat up. They they beat up real bad. And they can't speak. Their balance is off. they can't. I'm like, I don't want to be like that. So,
I have my health and I love my health. I love where I'm at right now in my career. I'm just lifting every day and I like that. Like, I'm getting bigger and stuff. I want to be like that. I don't
Like I miss fighting, but I don't miss it to what it's going to like deteriorate my health.
Ken Rideout
Yeah. And you have a lot of interest outside of the uh outside of the sport. And you've always been into I mean, one of the most uh avid readers I've ever met. You read a lot of books on business and finance,
Right? and you got a lot of interest outside. What businesses are you working on
Regis Prograis
Right now? I've been doing real estate for a while for for a long time. I always made sure I always invested after I fight. I always make sure I invest something, you know? So, I I've been doing real estate for a long time. Of course, I have a money manager with stocks and stuff like that. Right now, as far as what I want to do, um, not dealing with money really is like I'm probably do like a p I already had shoot I already been shooting podcast.
I've been doing that already. Movies kind of want to get into that that type of stuff. Um, of course I I had a book already. I have a book out. I'm gonna do another I'm getting a part two of that book. What else? Have probably do a cartoon also.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Regis Prograis
And Yeah. That's that's really And then open a business out here too. I have a I have a friend. He opened like a recovery center. Matter of fact, you got to go to if you can out here.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Regis Prograis
He has a recovery center and we he wants to open a second one and I'll probably be involved with that. And that's something I really really do want to do.
Ken Rideout
Sports recovery or drug recovery?
Regis Prograis
No, sports. Sports. It's a recovery center. It's called Cold Summer. And um it's really just a place, a two-part place. One, one side is a cafe and the other side it's um it's like a sauna, cold plunge, um compression um compression shorts, and then a red light therapy. Okay.
And so, and it's a real it's matter of fact, it's the airport right here. It's right around the corner from here from the airport. So, um I want to get into that, too. That's something I just I feel like I would want to do, be involved with.
Ken Rideout
Yeah, I could see you doing that. Well, let's start from the beginning. Where'd you grow up? New Orleans. From New Orleans. New Orleans. Louisiana.
What was childhood like? Were you like a Were you a super Cuz you are a good athlete. I mean, when I see you move around, I'm like this. You can just look at someone and be like, "Yeah, that guy's an athlete." I can see the confidence when you're in the ring. The way you move on your feet, you know? You see some guys, they're like rigid. They know everything to do, but it just doesn't feel smooth. When I see you, I'm like, "Oh, this guy's an athlete."
Regis Prograis
Yeah. Yeah. I I mean, I played everything. I played um of course when I come up where I come from basketball, football, I ran track, I did karate, I did swimming. Um I played a little baseball but not for a team. Um tried a little my hand a little soccer and stuff like that. But I did all that type of stuff, but fighting was my thing. Like when I when I started fighting, it was just like that was it. I loved it. So earlier my in at first when I was younger, I did karate.
[snorts] Um what happened was I did the karate thing and then I was hurting people too much. So the sensei he was like he told my dad he was like no he can't do karate because we was spawning the gloves you know in karate gloves. Well at first when I was young I did it when I was way younger and then we was kicking and stuff and then I I stopped I think I played football or something like that then I came back so we got we start sparring and you know the karate gloves them little bitty gloves I was hitting people with that I was hurting them and so the sense it was late told my dad was like he can't do it he needs to box or play football go back and play football.
So I went back and I went back and play I played football, got [snorts] stronger, faster and bigger and stuff like that. And then um so what happened with the boxing story is I played I played football in high school and we used to always fight in the boxing gloves and the football players used to fight in the box [clears throat] and this how corrupt New Orleans is. The coaches used to watch us.
Yeah. So doing this every Friday or something like we would get the gloves and I would be like I would be fighting all the the bigger guys and after one day I I beat one of the the old I was in a tanger at the time I beat like a senior. I beat him up real bad. So the coach saw me he pulled me to the side. He was like man look like you probably don't have a future in football but you might have one in boxing.
And I felt it already. I was like all right. And then I I really like I think that day or maybe that week I turned in my football equipment and I was like I went to a boxing gym. Which boxing gym?
Honestly, it was it was some boxing gym in New Orleans. Um because it was it was very it was brief because my mama took me out because my grades dropped. I was going to boxing and that was the hardest thing.
That was the hardest thing I ever did in my life. When I started boxing, that was the like that was the worst workout, the hardest work I ever did in my life. When I first started, I was exhausted.
I remember just um just punching with the weights and doing push-ups. But I never did that type of stuff before. me now it'll be easy but back in the day it was hard for me so I was doing that type of stuff and um that was the hardest thing and so my grades started dropping my mama took me out and then I had to go back when when school ended which was May or something like that and then I went to a gym in a nightwalk called Running Bear Boxing Club I went there um and then Hurricane Katrina hit I went there from May to August and after that the storm hit and then took me to Houston.
Ken Rideout
How quickly before we I want to talk to you about Katrina, but but before we get there, how quickly was did you feel like, oh, I'm going to beat up everyone in this gym? like how like when you first got there and start working on obviously it's can be very humbling and I always tell people this is like every single athlete at any endeavor whether it's football at some point you have to accept the fact that maybe some kids in basketball and stuff start out and they're really good but with a sport like boxing jiu-jitsu you come in you are the worst
These guys have experience a shitty boxer with experience is beating a good athlete with no experience
Regis Prograis
Right
Ken Rideout
So when you and I tell my kids this if you're not comfortable going to wrestling and jiu-jitsu and losing and getting beat up and feeling embarrassed and feeling terrible. You're never going to get to be the best. It's like a right of passage. How did you deal with that? Cuz you a good athlete going in there and feeling like
Or did you feel like, okay, I'm the worst now, but I'm going to be the best.
Regis Prograis
That's what I felt. So, my my confidence grew over time. It kept growing little by little by little. So, man, it's crazy. One of my friend I just talked to him right before I got here. We went to the gym in the night war and man, they had this dude named Red. They call him Red Dog, right? Man, this dude whooped my ass every day. It was like unfair how bad he would beat me. Like,
Ken Rideout
And the trainers weren't like, "Yo, tone it down, Red Dog."
Regis Prograis
No, because All right. So, when I went to when I went to this, this not the gym I went with my mama at first. This the this one I went back to summer time, the second gym. So, I went to a different box gym.
And man, so really, we didn't have a trainer. We was literally just train oursel in the yard. It was a ring outside in the yard and I was just going to I was obsessed with boxing. I was just going in the yard every day and just train. And he had he had like in his little garage he had like one heavy bag. I remember one heavy bag, one double end and one speed bag. That was it. He
Ken Rideout
There was no coach or trainer. It was just Red Dog's house.
Regis Prograis
It was No, it was the coach's house, but he didn't never be there. He would just he would just like he he worked and he would he was an older guy. He would just drink beer and talk to us after we finished training. That's all. So he'll be like he'll just let us train but he won't really train us. So me and Red would be um sparring and man he I'm whoop me every every time I sp him he whoop me every day. He had a style to where it was just like real slick and I thought he was like the best ever you know until I went to Texas and I found out that he would the thing is he he would go to nationals and he was like he would lose and stuff to go na in nationals.
I thought he was real good but um he was just like real good for New Orleans.
Ken Rideout
How was he getting good if he was just beating up on beginners?
Regis Prograis
That's why he probably wasn't. He was just beating up on us. So, we thought he was like I mean everybody.
Ken Rideout
But at some point, someone must have developed him good enough to be better than even beginners.
Regis Prograis
Well, he was just better than us, though. That's the thing. I mean, cuz it's the thing is New Orleans isn't a fighting city at all. New Orleans just is not known for fighting. He's not known for boxing, that's all. So, he was whooping all of us, but he would go to different cities and stuff and, you know, he would lose and stuff or go to nationals and he would lose. He would fall short because New Orleans just don't have that. They don't have that talent like you know New Orleans is a a basketball football and track that's what we develop.
Yeah. We develop that type of stuff. But as far as fighters, New Orleans doesn't doesn't develop that.
Ken Rideout
But I hope that people who are interested in boxing or thinking about boxing hear this and realize like how obsessed you have to be when all you have see like you don't know that there's other gym. I mean you probably know there's other gyms but not that it's like much more developed. You're probably thinking as your first experience like [ __ ] this is boxing. like I'm this guy's just beating the [ __ ] out of me. When do I get the chance to when do I get a chance to do the whooping?
Regis Prograis
Man, I start getting a little bit I start hitting him a little more, but man, he was just he was levels above me because you got to realize I started late and so he was doing it since he was a kid and he was going to nationals and I was just starting. So just imagine, you know, like you have to go in there and start somewhere. So just imagine somebody that has that much experience. You know, he was like a Louisiana state champion years in a row and you know um and then like I I like I said he went to nationals or something like that.
So to go to nationals, you got to kind of be pretty good, you know. But somebody coming in off the street, like you said, a athlete compared to a fighter that's going to nationals, it's a it's a big difference.
Ken Rideout
But it's also you as a fighter, I know you you wouldn't beat up on someone like that. It doesn't help anyone. It doesn't help you get better to beat the [ __ ] out of someone who doesn't know what they're f if if you like in jiu-jitsu when my youngest son does jiu-jitsu they would always say like hey take care of your training partner like you don't want to a you don't want to hurt him because you're not a jerk and b you want this guy to get better so if you just dominate him and it isn't going to help him and I would see my son he'd roll with the beginner and he would let the kid get him and I say even at 8 years old I say I can see that you're a good person letting that kid he's like that it isn't going help me to embarrass this guy.
I know I can do it, but this guy is just like teeing off on you. Like I know that you wouldn't do that. And it's just
The fact that you stuck with it through that to say like
Regis Prograis
Stuck with getting getting whoop every every time we sp I would give whoop. But the thing is about me, I was always tough. I was a good fighter, you know? That's the thing. I wasn't a good boxer, but I always was a good fighter. Like I can take it. Like people that's probably why he can do it cuz
If I get one off, I'm hurt him. That's the thing. That's how it was when I was younger. like if I you can hit me with whatever and I was just always real durable, real tough. I can take a I could take a punch. So that's probably why he could take me he could hit me so much. But if I he knows if I land one and I probably sometimes I probably did he know all right it's going to hurt.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Regis Prograis
That's why you know and I always was so when I was younger I was very very durable. Like I was just always a good fighter [snorts] and that's what kind of took me
Ken Rideout
All right. So, Katrina happens. Tell me about Katrina. What was your experience? Cuz I know it was like
Regis Prograis
Everybody had different experience in Katrina. So, Katrina happened. Um, I was 16 when it first happened. My mom and dad they I didn't I didn't know at the time my my mom and dad had just got a divorce. I didn't know where my dad was at. He left he went somewhere else. My mom she was working in the French court at the time. So she stayed back. So it was it was me, my grandma, my grandpa and my sister and we had a cousin. [snorts] Usually the the the trip from New Orleans to Houston takes about 6 7 hours.
It took us like 18 hours because traffic. It was literally traffic on the road, you know.
Ken Rideout
So you left as it was getting bad or after it was like I left before I did.
Regis Prograis
So you knew the storm was coming and and they your parents your mom was like get him out of my mom stay my grandma. So what happened was so the the mayor at the time was Ray Negan. Ray Negan got on TV. He said it's a it's a mandatory evacuation. You have to go. He said it's going to be like Hurricane Betsy. Hurricane Betsy hit in 1963. I think that's when my grandma was younger and she remember that on they had to get on boats. her daddy and stuff had to get on boats.
So she remember that. She said or if it's going to be because we wasn't going to leave. She said, "If it's going to be like that, we have we have to leave." And so that's why we we did that. We kind of we got out of there.
Ken Rideout
So you got out of there. What happened with your mom?
Regis Prograis
My mom stayed. She stayed in the French. The thing is New Orleans is a you know, it's a bowl like this and the water just pours in. But she worked in the French quarters. The French Quarters was almost untouched. That's the crazy thing about it. like it was it was a lot of wind and stuff but as far as the flooding the French Qu didn't get touched and she was working in the hotel in the French Qu at the time so nothing happened to it.
Ken Rideout
Where was your house though?
Regis Prograis
My house was in east now. My house got destroyed. My house had about 8 ft of water. We went back about 2 weeks later and my house had about 8 ft of water. My grandma house had about 13 ft destroyed. Like
Ken Rideout
Everything that you owned was gone.
Regis Prograis
Everything was gone. Everything you own that's that's all absolutely that's gone. Destroyed you know. And it's crazy what water can do. Like you would think like man water is so strong. What water can do. Like I saw when I went back cuz we went back early. We went back about 2 weeks after it happened [snorts] and literally we saw a house that was here moved a house. You can see the it's insane to see that like what water can do to something is is I don't know.
It's it's just it's something you have to see. It's something you can't even explain that stuff. Like we saw I would see boats on top on top of houses, cars on on a type of house, a house move down the street, you know, to see that stuff is is just insane. So we went back and I mean all the furniture just all over the place. The smell was something you can't you can't even describe the smell. Um it was it was it was bad.
Ken Rideout
So when you went back, what did you do? Like what was the game plan? Let's just see what we can salvage and then get out of there.
Regis Prograis
Salvage nothing. You couldn't salvage nothing. I mean, I I had just the thing about I bought I had just bought some Prada shoes right before school started.
Ken Rideout
You've always been a name brand.
Regis Prograis
I always wanted my products, man. Me and my friend bought some Prada shoes. I salvaged my PRA. That's it. It was dirty out, but I got them. I washed them off and stuff. I got my PRAs back. But um cuz I I worked for the whole summer time, almost the whole summer time. I worked to get those Prada shoes to to make some money. And um I got those shoes and that was it. I couldn't get nothing else. Everything was just destroyed.
Ken Rideout
And so at that point, did you move back to Houston permanently?
Regis Prograis
Yeah, I I went back to Houston. That was it. I went back to Houston.
Ken Rideout
And so where were you staying in Houston? Were you staying with friends, family?
Regis Prograis
Man, we stayed um we went I think I I counted like we moved around 18 times. We stayed in um they had this a guy we knew through a cousin. Um we stayed in his like garage. All of us family. We stayed in the garage. We stayed some other people houses. We stayed hotels. We just went back and forth just like just a lot just moving around back and forth. We went to um Mississippi for like three week three or four weeks went to Mississippi. I lived in Slidell for a little while.
We moved around.
Ken Rideout
It had to be traumatizing.
Regis Prograis
It for me it's it sound like it was but for me I liked it. It was an adventure. It was I was 17. Now I turned 17 and um moved all around. I loved it. I went to five different high schools. So, I just moved all I kept moving around and I kind of for me I loved it.
Ken Rideout
And you liked going to the being the new kid at the new
Regis Prograis
I liked I did like it. I I did like cuz all the girls like you when you go when you go to different guy
The new guy all the and so like I was I was from New Orleans
Ken Rideout
And they knew I can fight. Yeah.
Regis Prograis
You know I had tattoos when I was younger too. So I was like the bad guy. How old were you when you started getting tattoos?
I was 16 when I got my first tattoo. This one my mom name. So I had tattoos and we have a in in New Orleans you have a reputation. Everybody had a reputation in New Orleans for being like this bad guy. So I was quiet. I was always quiet. I don't like I'm not going to just make a friend if I don't you know I need to know people first. I need to My sister was different. She would talk to everybody and warm up to them real quick.
For me I would like I have to vet out everybody I'm talking to, you know? So I would go into schools real quiet and people was kind of scared of me cuz like I'm from New Orleans. I'm red. I'm from New Orleans. I got tattoos and they find I'm a boxer. So like literally nobody wanted to mess with me, you know? And I was proving it too. Like if like the crazy thing when I went to um when I went to Houston at first, well when I went to cuz I went to Houston back and forth.
I went to Houston, then I moved to Mississippi, then I went moved to SL then Mississippi went back to Houston. But the second time I went to Houston, that's why I graduated from Westside. And people were scared of me and they didn't don't even know who I am. They was scared. They heard I'm a boxer and uh and um of course I got tattooed from New Orleans, but they didn't want to mess with me. But I never even proved it. People just knew I boxed. That's all.
But man, I loved it. I'm not going to lie. I did like going to a bunch of it was thinking about it now, it's a cra it was um like a crazy experience, but I did like I liked it at the time.
Ken Rideout
It's funny to me because on the surface I can see where they would think that about you, but getting to know you I'm like this guy is like the perfect example of don't judge a book by its cover. I remember going to your house and seeing all the books you had read about finance and uh business and the more time I spend talking to you, I'm like, "This guy is like an anomaly." Like you do not your personality doesn't match how you look and sound.
Right. Right.
Like you're not a bully. Remember I used to always tell you about the Charlos? Like
With the Charlos I was like, "Man, these guys are like handsome. They're awesome boxers. Why do they want to be gangsters? Like why do you want to be like push this image? like brands don't want to work with that kind of image. It always baffled me. But I was like, well, Regis, he's just like it just the accent and the looks can be misconceive or have a wrong perception of you.
But all right, so you graduated from high school in Houston. Are you still When do you start going to the Charlo gym?
Regis Prograis
No, not Char the Savannah. So it was Savannah Boxing Gym. Charles opened gym a long time after
Ken Rideout
But that's where Charlo were.
Regis Prograis
We all Yeah, we all came up in Savannah Boxing Gym. man that they had.
Ken Rideout
That was Ronnie Shields.
Regis Prograis
No, it was Savannah. Ronnie was there though. It was It was Willie Savannah. Willie was the owner. Um Willie and Claire Savannah, I still talk to Miss Savannah. Willie recipe, he died a few years ago. And Miss Savannah, she's still running the gym right now. But Ronnie was there and
Ken Rideout
All those people were there. The
Regis Prograis
Man they have to make a movie about this gym. That gym was special, man. Like at the time, Ronnie was the one of the head coaches there. And the biggest name there was like Holyfield. Holyfield was there. He was at the end of his grip, but he was there. I remember De La Hoya coming in. Shane Mosley coming in. Um, Vin Motor, I think he died. Um, Omar Herring, he died, too. Um, the Charlo twins, it was me, it was Hila Williams, it was dude named Lenard Lane, he was a good pro, too.
Um, London Lara was there. Rigendelle was there.
Ken Rideout
Come on, man. Cuz Ronnie Shields trained, he trained all these guys.
This has to be one of the biggest collections of talent at any boxing in the world.
Regis Prograis
They have to make a somebody has to make a movie about that gym one day. Like it was so much talent in that gym is is insane. And so I was for me
Ken Rideout
Was that the first gym you went to after the first gym after you left New Orleans. So after red dogs beating the [ __ ] out of you, then you show up at this gym with even like
Regis Prograis
The most better talent, even better people like that cuz
Ken Rideout
But now there's trainers so they're probably not letting you get tuned up like that,
Regis Prograis
Right? Well, I the thing when I was younger I was bleed a lot too. I told you like I was a fighter. So you can hit me and I can bleed but if I they know if I hit them I'm hurt them. So
What happened was I was sparring with some guy one time and the trainer he said like when I hit him he could see the punch through his back. Yeah.
And I was I was I was fighting somebody of like nobody no fights just like me, you know. So I hit somebody and so after that they had to put me with the like I said the twins and stuff. They had to put me with them all the the the guys that was going to nationals and stuff because I was too good. I was I was too strong.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Regis Prograis
I was all I told you I was always a fighter. So I would like I would try to hurt people. That's what I would do. And still I just know how to do it. Like even I'm I'm starting to roll with jiu-jitsu and stuff now. But I just it's a natural thing for me. I just know how to It's might sound mess. I know how to hurt people.
I just know how to do it. So when I was younger, that's what I would do. Like you can box me. It's cool. You could be better boxer, but if I hit you, I'm going to hurt you. And that's what I would do. I would hit people and I I make sure I would hit them and I would hurt them because I would b my fist up real tight in the gloves. The harder you bought your fist up, the harder they hand it like a brick.
Yeah. So if I hit somebody, I'mma hurt them. So coming from there, like I said, I I was the first time I sp I remember I couldn't wait too. The first time I sp with some some kid and my trainer, the trainer at the time, um big said he said, "Man, I you hit him and I saw it through his back." He said then they had to put me with all like the you know the the the the guys that was going to nationals and I was my I didn't have no fights yet.
I was just coming in. So that's how I developed and they will man they would beat me. They would whoop me all these dudes.
Ken Rideout
But would any of those guys were the trainers kind of like hey to the to the to the to the established guys like hey like I don't want the kid to leave. This guy is good. We're trying to develop him. Don't unload on him. Like
Regis Prograis
Yeah. I don't think so. I think they just
Cuz I wasn't quitting. That's what I want to do. I don't care. Like I can I mean maybe not maybe not now, but when I was younger I was so durable. I could take man I could take a punch. I would bleed. I'm talking I would bleed every day. I will bleed. I will bleed when I put my hand wraps on. I will bleed so much. My nose just always will bleed. And um but I was a natural fighter and I maybe they told me I don't know what they say but I wasn't quitting.
Like no matter what happened I wasn't quitting cuz I really just love that was something I just love to do you know.
Ken Rideout
How quickly did you think like, "Okay, they're they're getting off on me right now, but I'm going to I'm going to get these guys."
Regis Prograis
It it took a while because they were so experienced, I mean, I remember so
The dude I mentioned Lenor Lane. So, I remember spawning him one time. So, as an amateur, we always go Monday through Thursday after school cuz we was in school. So, one day I went on a Saturday. That's when [snorts] all the pros train that where all the pros will train in the morning time and then on Saturdays. So, one time I went, my coach was like, "Yeah, go on a Saturday. come on Saturday and come spar. I went on Saturday, man. And this dude, I I sp Lenor Lane.
He'll see it one day. I spot him and man, he beat the hell out of me, man. I'm talking about he
It I couldn't land the punch. He was just He was fat. He was older, too. He was a few years older than me, so he was older. So, he had the He was a man. He had man strength and he was fast and he was
I couldn't hit him literally. I think we sp four rounds. I probably hit him one time, you know. He beat the hell out of me and I'm like damn like but it made me realize all right it's another level to it and it just for me I my confidence kept growing more cuz I'm like all right and then I remember one time then um later I end up dropping them so I end up getting better. I kept getting better and better and better and I was like I'm I'm going to catch up eventually.
Ken Rideout
Well the people in the gym must be noticing this and be like holy [ __ ] we got something good with this kid Regis because not only is he good but he can take a beating and he keeps coming back like you can't intimidate him.
Regis Prograis
Yeah, they had one of one of my friends, another dude that died, rest in peace, Tffy, he would say, "Man, when you turn pro, you going to be a monster." He used to tell me that all the time. He like, "Man, cuz I would hit so hard." He said, "Man, when you turn pro, man, once you put those eight those 8 oz gloves on, man, you could be a monster." And that's when I was like, not just starting off, but I was still, you know, it was probably a few years before I turned pro.
Ken Rideout
And he said turn pro probably because you're relatively new. You're late to the game. amateurs takes incredible incredible experience and
Boxing knowledge and all the [ __ ] that like when you were in with the Charlos when you were like they were just so experienced like they're doing this since they're 5 6 7 years old. You're starting at 17.
So that's why they're probably looking at you for people who don't know much about boxing. There's a big difference between being a good amateur and a good pro,
Regis Prograis
Right?
Ken Rideout
And you're the perfect example. Probably not someone who's going to go to the Olympics, but as a pro would become a world champion.
Regis Prograis
Exactly. Yeah. Cuz I fought in the Olympic trials. I lost Olympic trials, but then as a pro in my class, I think I probably accomplished more than anybody else except like Aaron Spence. Errol was I fought at 152 in the amateurs. I turned pro and dropped down to 140. But at 152, Errol was the champion, you know, he was the the Olympic
Ken Rideout
And he was Was he at that gym, too?
Regis Prograis
No, he was in Dallas
Cuz he's buddies with his stuff, but he's in he's in Dallas.
Okay. All right.
Ken Rideout
So, when did you have your first amateur fight?
Regis Prograis
Well, I I fought one in New Orleans, but for me it's like that didn't count. I fought one fight in New Orleans before the storm hit, but then for me,
First one in Texas, I'm Man, it was so long. I can't even I
Ken Rideout
Okay. When did you start fighting like competitive amateur? Not just the [ __ ] where you show up at like some wreck club, but when it's like competitive, you know, like
Regis Prograis
I remember my first like probably my first loss. I remember that my first loss was like my 10th or 11th fight. I fought a dude named David Thomas and um I yeah I think it was my 11th fight and it was the Golden Gloves. It was the finals of the Golden Gloves and I lost that fight
Ken Rideout
In Houston.
Regis Prograis
Houston Golden Gloves finals. Yeah, it was in Houston. It was just in Houston
Ken Rideout
But it was called the Houston Golden Gloves, not
Regis Prograis
Golden Gloves. Yeah, I lost that fight and um I just remember after that coming back and I end up beating him. I came back for a rematch and I beat him years later. But we fought at uh we fought at the US championships in the the I think the city finals like Houston finals. Yeah. I end up going to state win the state and then going to nationals. I lost the national.
Ken Rideout
So you were the state Texas state champion as an amateur.
Regis Prograis
Yes. As far as the US na US Open national something like that.
I was the Yeah. state champion.
Ken Rideout
And where were nationals?
Regis Prograis
Colorado Springs.
Ken Rideout
So at that point was that the first time you had like taken an airplane and like now you're starting to travel?
Regis Prograis
It wasn't the first time, but it was I I didn't go a lot of places when I was younger. Um, so yeah, like traveling with boxing was like it's crazy. I remember then I remember I won the it was called the in Kansas City have the the ringside world championships. I won that. So I think that was um that was a big confidence booster for me when I went to the the ringside national champion and world championships and I won that and it was four fights, man.
I'm not going to lie. After the fight, like after four fight my jaw was done. I couldn't even eat M&M's. I was done. Even after the third fight, they had to fight another one. In the fourth fight, you fighting [snorts] and the thing is you fighting
Somebody that won three times just like you. So, this is the finals and this is a dude, you know, and then I remember I end up dropping them in the finals.
I like damn, you know, and I won the belt and that just that felt like real good. Okay.
This was before even before um going to national that time.
So, but one thing I had to for me since I started so late and came from Katrina, I had to play catchup a lot.
Yeah. I had to I had to get a lot of fights and like every weekend they would have fight. We would go to tournaments and I would have to fight fight fight keep fighting keep fighting keep fighting and that's kind of what and my confidence kept growing. That thing is in in fighting one of the main things is your confidence. You got to have confidence. That's that's probably one of the M. You don't have to even be you have to be good, but somebody could be better than you.
Ken Rideout
So, as you're going to all these tournaments, like how are you paying for the travel? Does the Does the club pick it up? Like, what are you doing for bread?
Regis Prograis
That's a good question. Maybe my mom or something was paying up. I was So, as an amateur, I was still working. I started working, you know? I was
Ken Rideout
What were you doing?
Regis Prograis
I used to be I did a bunch of jobs, but eventually I became like a personal trainer. That's why I was I worked at LA Fitness for six years. Before I started making money, people don't know that. Yeah. Before I started making money, I worked at LA Fitness for 6 years. I was a personal trainer. Yeah. And then I worked at Title Bison for another two years. I didn't make my first big check till I was like 27.
Ken Rideout
Okay. So, you're just hustling hourly and you're footing essentially all the bills. So, if you go to Kansas City, Reg is paying for the airfare.
Regis Prograis
Basically, I had to do we we drove I think we drove to Kansas City. Yeah.
Ken Rideout
Well, you flew to some places.
Regis Prograis
I flew to some places. Well, I think that maybe my dad or mom helped me out. I'm trying to think. Maybe my dad or something like to help me out. Um cuz my dad had a he's worked for the state of Louisiana so he had a good job at the time. Then he started coming back around once I started boxing. The thing is my so my dad and mom had divorced when I was like 14
And um I think he started coming back around like when I was like 19 or something like that because boxing kind of put us together. He wanted to come see the fights and I was you know I was starting to get good at that time and so then he started coming cuz he was in Louisiana. He started come driving to Texas and come watch me fight and stuff like that. So I think
Ken Rideout
He a fighter as a kid.
Regis Prograis
My dad never was a fight. I don't know where the fighting come from. And your dad was an athlete.
He's an athlete. Yeah. My dad ran. He was a um he was a long-distance runner. He ran and um he played basketball. He played basketball college, but he wasn't good.
Ken Rideout
Okay.
Regis Prograis
Yeah. He wasn't good. Nothing like that. My my first love was basketball. Man, I love basketball. I had a picture. I just my my mama sent me a picture when I was younger. I had I was like nine or 10 and I had a basketball in my hand doing this. I love Man, I love basketball. The Alan Arson was my favorite player. I wanted to be like Allan Arson when I was young.
Ken Rideout
I love Yeah, I love basketball. I had a partnership with Reebok for uh for a couple of years and he was one of the athletes there. He's such a good guy,
Regis Prograis
Man. It's one It's crazy story, man. I get off subject, but I went matter of fact here they had the Ryan Garcia and um um Jamaati Davis fight and um NGM and one time, man, I I was walking down and I saw him playing at playing um craps playing roulette at the Ed Lverson and um somebody told me like, "Come down, come see Elverson here." And I went down like, "Damn, that's Ella Harrison." And the crazy thing, he knew who I was.
Ken Rideout
Oh, that's awesome.
Regis Prograis
I saw John Pascal, right? I saw John Pascal in um in the lobby, too. We was all talk about it cuz by the way,
Ken Rideout
Light heavyweight.
Regis Prograis
Yeah, light heavyweight. Yeah, I saw big dude [clears throat] um Canadian. So, I know him. Yeah. Me and he was in Dubai together stuff before. So, we all was um chilling and so we saw each other was up and [snorts] so he saw Alan Arson and then Alan Arson cuz he didn't want to be bothered by nobody. So, he was just playing. and he had his he had his guys there and stuff like that and um he didn't want to be bothered. So John John Prescott knew him and I was with him.
So he like he turned around like, "Oh, what's up?" Talking to me. I'm like, "Damn, this AI, bro. This like my hero, bro." When I was younger, we all wanted to be everyone wanted to be like the whole NBA is almost based off of him now. You know, everyone everybody got the the tattoos and stuff, but back in the day, nobody wanted to be like that, you know. But it's like, man, it was crazy. Alan Arson knew who I was.
Ken Rideout
He had that swagger and he was a real big appeal to like the inner city black kids too cuz he didn't take no [ __ ] and he talked like he was himself all the time.
Remember the rant he went on about practice
Regis Prograis
He was small and I was with him and I was small man. I was doing all that stuff. It's crazy how big he not you know he like a regular he not that big
Ken Rideout
Which is crazy how small he is cuz I'm I'm staying right now over here at the Four Seasons and the summer league's going on. All the guys are there from the summer league. Dude, they're [ __ ] giants. Every single guy is like 67 and up.
Regis Prograis
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right.
Ken Rideout
I was on the elevator with Patrick Ewing and he grew up right around the corner from me. Yeah. It was so cool. I was like, "Oh, Cambridge. I'm from Somerville." He's like, "Oh, what's up, man?" Couldn't have been a nicer guy. Oh, he's dapping up everyone in the elevator. Women, he's just couldn't have been friendlier.
But yeah, man. AI. The fact that he was as small as he was and the impact that he had on the NBA is just crazy.
Just shows you like, you know,
No one can tell you who you are. The only opinion of you that matters is your own.
Regis Prograis
Is yourself, right? Exactly.
Ken Rideout
So, when did you turn pro?
Regis Prograis
I turned pro April something midappril maybe 18, 17 something. 2012, that's when I turned pro.
Ken Rideout
And who at that point, who's your manager and who's picking the opponents? Because [clears throat] for the people that don't know, good pro boxers need to be developed. They need to be put in with the right opponents. And like, we're going to talk about it, but you got to you got to pay the opponents to show up. not pay to lose, but you got to if a guy knows I'm going up against Regis. Like like you said, there's levels to boxing. You know, this guy Regis is going to beat the brakes off of you.
So the guy might be like, I want five grand. So the promoter is going to say, I'm not paying this for guy five grand. So who has to pay it? Me.
Exactly. So you're paying opponents not to lose, but to show up.
Regis Prograis
Yes.
Ken Rideout
They they obviously they want to win, but they're probably not going to win most. So who's managing that process? Cuz obviously from the jump, you don't know this. like who's explaining the rules of the like who's putting you on to the game?
Regis Prograis
My first manager was his name was Jay John's. So, you know, he was I mean looking back on it, he I think he was a good manager because he did he matched me with the right people at the time. But the thing is he didn't have the money. So, just like you said, we had to pay these opponents and so how we would pay him I had to sell tickets. That's what I had to do. So, about my first 10 fights probably like four or five of those I didn't get I mean got paid zero nothing like they give you a check $1.
Yeah,
Ken Rideout
That's $0.
There has to be a minimum.
Regis Prograis
They have to give you a check. Say they paid you. It can't be free. So, they give you a dollar check. I still have those. I
Ken Rideout
Hope you saved those checks.
Regis Prograis
I still have those checks. I still
Ken Rideout
Those checks should be framed next to the belts.
Regis Prograis
I have That's I have them um I have them in a I have a picture and it's inside the picture. I have a big picture made of me and it's inside the picture, a part of the picture. So, yeah, I have those checks. But yeah, man. Like and I did that, man. I did that about maybe my first 11 12 fights probably like well 10 fights for sure. probably like four of those maybe. I think my 11th fight I didn't get paid either.
Ken Rideout
So, but for people that don't know like if you're like let's say Oscar De La Hoya, you win a gold medal, you're going to get a manager who's going to be like not only do you not have to pay the opponents, I'm going to make sure that you get paid 20 30 grand. So, the so the manager is essentially carrying you. He's giving you monthly money to live. He's paying the opponents. And in exchange, he owns like what percentage of your contract? 33.
Regis Prograis
I had 33. But I didn't have 33 for mine. But I didn't I wasn't getting that. I was paying for my own bonus. But he wasn't giving you a monthly, man. I had to work. That's what I'm saying.
Ken Rideout
That's what I mean. But a good pro
A good a good manager. A a pro with a real big
Regis Prograis
Yeah.
Ken Rideout
Amateur pedigree is going to get five grand a month. They never have to pay anyone. They're going to give paid five grand to every fight they fight. And then when they start winning in theory, the manager is now going to keep Is is 33 like the standard or some of it 50/50?
Regis Prograis
It's like no 33 is the standard like when you're starting off now when you like for me my end of my career is like 10 or something like that% you know
Ken Rideout
But even someone like De La Hoya I just use him as an example cuz he was like the go like he coming out of amateur he was like a
Regis Prograis
Short thing
Ken Rideout
Right
He could probably say no I want all the I want all the stuff you described but I you're only getting 10%. The fighter can negotiate.
Regis Prograis
Yeah, of course. Definitely negotiate.
Ken Rideout
All right. So, your guys getting a third of the money, but he's not paying anything. He's not wearing any risk essentially. He's just
Regis Prograis
Captaining the ship.
He's just getting the fights. I mean, he was a good man as far as giving me the fights because he he picked the right fight. He kept you busy.
He kept me busy, you know, picking the right fights for me and stuff like that. And like, so I had to do that for my first 10 really 10 11 fights. I had to do that. And then I signed with Lud Bella.
Okay. And so once
Ken Rideout
How did you get out of the contract with the manager though? Do do they have like time?
Regis Prograis
No manager promoter two different things. So I was still in the I was still in a contract with him when I was with
Ken Rideout
But you didn't have a promoter now with Deella. Now you have Jay's your manager. Lou is your promoter. [clears throat]
Regis Prograis
Yeah.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Regis Prograis
So basically they you know once you get the promoter it does get easier. Okay.
You get a promoter then they have TV dates and stuff and then once you I I think I fought maybe
I think my 15th fight I fought on TV. That was my first TV fight and so I think I signed with Lou probably after my 10th fight. Well, I had I already I signed with him after my 10th fight, but I had 11 fight already scheduled. So, I got that fight out the way. So, really my I think three fights with Lou off TV and then the first one on TV and then it kind of took off from there.
Ken Rideout
And when you're fighting with Lou, how does that now work? Lou guarantees you a minimum purse for each fight.
Regis Prograis
You Lou guaranteed me minimum. That was
Ken Rideout
Do you remember what it was?
Regis Prograis
Ballpark like 5 to7500. some 5,7500 stuff. It depends on the rounds and stuff like that.
Ken Rideout
And then was it in the contract that if you get a TV fight, it steps up to
Regis Prograis
Yeah, of course. TV fight now. You start stepping up, you know. So that's a good thing. I ran through everybody. I ran, man. I ran through everybody.
Ken Rideout
I remember every time I'd see your name, I'd be like, "Oh, someone's getting the [ __ ] kicked out of him. This guy is a savage."
Regis Prograis
Man, I ran through everybody. Showbox, I fought on. So at first when I first signed with Lou, like I said, after my 10th fight, I signed with him, but I had I had a fight over his schedule, so he let me fight my 11th fight off of that. Um 12, 13, 14, I ran through, knocked those dudes out. 15 I fought this dude in the Amos cohort. Um I did knock him out, but I broke like a showbox record. I think I it was like over thousand punches in eight rounds.
I did something like just throw a bunch of punches on him. After that, I knocked everybody out. Showbox. So um it was like Joel Diaz, I fought him. There was same thing. It was Hall of Fame weekend, New York. I went to that. I knocked him out in the second round
At the Turning Rock Casino. Turning Turning Stone Stone. I knock I knocked him out in the second round. Then I fought somebody else. Knocked him out in the first round. That's fought somebody else. Knocked him out second round. Then I fought like um Undone go down. Fought somebody. I fought five times on Showbox. I knocked everybody out. So that's when that after that um I had a big fight in New Orleans and then I signed with um then I did the the Super Series boxing and took off.
Ken Rideout
So was Lou still your promoter in super series or was that a new deal?
Regis Prograis
He was my he he he was still my promoter with the super series I think for one fight or so. I don't know how he was involved but by that time I had new manager too.
Ken Rideout
So when did you get the new manager? I'm intrigued by the business side of it.
Regis Prograis
So right after so me and Jay had a contract for about 5 years and it got extended because I got hurt. That's another thing happened in my career. I got hurt. I had a um eye injury. I got thumbmed in my eye. That's the thing I can talk about too. I went broke. That's the crazy thing. And when I was younger, I went broke. So I had an eye.
Ken Rideout
What happened?
Regis Prograis
I was sparing with this guy. He throw uppercut. He would always throw uppercuts like this. So he thumb in my eye, popped it. And I never
Ken Rideout
Inspiring
Regis Prograis
In sparring. I was sparring for the fight in sparring. Popped it. So this was after um matter, I fought I think I fought Abel Ramos or something like that. So at the time, man, I was told you I was a personal trainer. As a personal trainer, I was probably making like $1,000 a month, right? $12,000 a year, right? So I fought I think I fought Abel Ramos. I probably think I made like 30,000. So that's for me that's rich, right? That's really rich. You talk about that's a lot of money for me at the time.
So um yeah, I fought after I fought him I kind of stopped going to work and stuff like that. We start traveling. My wife my wife Brazilian we went to Brazil. She stopped working all that type of stuff.
Ken Rideout
No, by the way you get married right in the middle of this right at the beginning of your career. Right as your start stop start making money.
Regis Prograis
Yes. I got married early. I got y'all got married early this thing and we got married. I mean, I don't want to say nothing bad about we got married, you know, she Brazilian, so to keep her here, we had to get married and end up working out. You know, end up working out good. We had three kids and stuff like that. So, um,
Ken Rideout
No, I met her. She's cool.
Regis Prograis
Yeah, I got real cool, you know, not together no more. Well, she cool. It's cool. It's all good. But anyways, it popped my uber bone.
Ken Rideout
I was throwing up your orbital.
Regis Prograis
Popped it. Broke broke. It's a It's a bone that holds your eye up.
Ken Rideout
Did it swell like a million?
Regis Prograis
It didn't swell up, but I couldn't see. And I heard it pop and like I told you, I was real durable in SP. I don't care. Hey, you can whoop my ass. I'm coming, you know, no matter what. I stopped sparring cuz I knew something was wrong. You
Drove him right there like, "Yeah, something happened." You know, I was throwing up and stuff like that. They was like, "Go get checked." I went, they told me. So, I was out for And at first the doctor told me I I cried in the car. The doctor told me, "You'll never fight again. That's it. Boxing done." I was like, "What?" Like, "Bro, I was in the car crying. Didn't know what I was like, "What I'm going to do? Be a person trainer forever." You know, like, you know.
So, then I But the thing is, I stayed in the gym the whole time. I couldn't spot nothing but I stay I I went to gym every single day if I was sometimes
Ken Rideout
I look like like the day or two after what did they do for it and what did it look like?
Regis Prograis
They at first they told me it would take surgery. I went got like four different opinions.
Ken Rideout
Okay.
Regis Prograis
At first they told me surgery. You said you they said you'll never do it again. You never box again. You have to have surgery. So then I waited cried in the car told my manager told my my trainer. I'm like you know um they told me I never fight again. And they said just wait, you know, let's So then after that, I probably waited [snorts] a few weeks. I went back.
They said,
Ken Rideout
But there was no treatment at this point. They were just like, I have a broken face.
Regis Prograis
You get They say you can get a a surgery.
They told me I can get some type of surgery. Yeah.
But I I just was like, they said, just wait. My manager and and Bobby at the time I training, he said, just wait. Just hold off. Don't worry about it. They was more [snorts] calm to me. I was like, man, they told me I'm never boxing again. So I was mad about that. So I went back a few weeks later. Um yeah, I went back. They said then it was it was getting better. They said you probably don't need surgery but you need to heal it but you still can't box no more.
It'll heal by itself but you can't box. So then I I waited I went back I went another doctor they said it's getting better you know it's getting better. You might can fight again. I like all right it's getting that that's better for me. Then I went back the last time the doctor said you're good. It's healed like it's it's going
Ken Rideout
Healed on its own. So it just like but it didn't get like dislocated. They say it healed and it was my on my left. They say it was healed and it got stronger. And so he and he said I said, "What about?" He said, "Yeah, you can fight. Just don't get hit for like the next I think just you can fight. Just don't get hit."
Regis Prograis
He said, "You can fight. You can fight again. Just don't get hit for like the next I think the next month or something like that." So we scheduled a fight. We we scheduled so I can still train and stuff like that. Like I said, the whole time it was nine months. The whole time
I was training. I would go to gym just to hit the bag. Sometime I go to the gym just to punch the wall to make my knuckles harder. I just go in the gym just to do this for like an hour just hitting the wall. Boom boom boom boom boom just to make my knuckles harder so when I got back and I'd be ready and just stand in shape, you know. And um but yeah, I went man I went broke and um I lost lost everything.
I had to still go to work and stuff like that. So it was a and I remember going New Orleans and like I was crying. She was like, "I don't know what we could do. We ain't got the money for the rent." And I just I never felt nothing bad about it. Like I asked somebody I I asked my her uncle. He paid I had rent to pay. He paid for my my rent was $1,000 a month at the time. He paid it and um I literally the next fight I just paid them right back soon as I the next fight I fought cuz I had to get a tuna fight again.
I fought in um I fought in Mississippi right by New Orleans. It's like probably hour and a half from New Orleans. So all my people from New Orleans came same I knocked dude out in the first round. The check was only $10,000. He gave me four. I had to give him that. So literally all the money was gone because I had to pay my had to pay my coach, my manager had to give him back his money to 4,000. I got 10,000. So it's all gone.
But
Ken Rideout
How much is the how much is the trainer getting? 10%.
Regis Prograis
10%. Usually the trainer get 10%.
Ken Rideout
All right. So you have the tuneup fight and then what comes next? The boxing super series.
Regis Prograis
No, I was still I think Showbox Showbox was still there at the time. Yeah, Showbox was still there. And it's crazy how things happened for me. It was like I always had something an angel or something sitting on my shoulder because then my that's when I fought Joel Diaz and I stopped him in the second round.
Ken Rideout
Joel Diaz is an established like real. Yeah. Real guys. His his um his dad is Joel Diaz killer man. This is not Now you're fighting real guys.
Regis Prograis
Fighting real guys. And I went out I stopped him in the second round.
Ken Rideout
Did he have a loss at that point?
Regis Prograis
No. We was both undefeated. He had more knockouts than I had wins. I think I was 19. I was 19 and0 with 16 knockouts.
I think he was 20 something and0 with 19 knock. He was probably like 22 and0 with with 19 knockouts. So it was a it was a big fight.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Regis Prograis
And I stopped him in the second round.
Ken Rideout
Oh, that must have been good.
Regis Prograis
Yeah, it was.
Ken Rideout
How much you get for that fight?
Regis Prograis
Honestly, I forgot 60,000 or something.
Ken Rideout
So the biggest payday?
Regis Prograis
Yeah, that time. Biggest payday sponsor.
Ken Rideout
After you pay your manager, your trainer, everything how much you're left with? Cuz the the manager is getting the third, the trainer's getting 10%.
Regis Prograis
Yeah. The half by about half. Okay. About half or something like that.
Ken Rideout
When did you segue out of the contract with Jay and then sign with the new manager?
Regis Prograis
So that was my last fight after that. That was my last fight. Jo did. So
Ken Rideout
That manager did a that was a great trade for him cuz he ended up making tens of thousands of dollars and he spent zero to manage you, right?
Other than his time,
Regis Prograis
Right? But he could have had way So this is what happened with this. He could have had way if he would have I I in if he would have been greedy. He wanted to be greedy, right? So the the contract ended.
Ken Rideout
A boxing manager wanted to be greedy. Holy [ __ ]
Right. They don't know that, right? That's crazy. Right. Call the media,
Regis Prograis
Right? Exactly. Right. So he wanted to be greedy and he could have got way more. So at that time um that's when I like I fought for that that amount and then after that I signed my name for way I ain't going to tell you how much money I sign literally sign your name for this I got money after that but I signing away
Well to sign with a different manager.
Oh
Ken Rideout
But I I know I know what it is. You get 200,000 in cash.
Regis Prograis
Oh no no I ain't going to say that. I ain't going to say the amount. I don't say the I ain't going to say the model or I'm not I'm not saying no I ain't saying no mom came but
Ken Rideout
Well who did you sign with
Regis Prograis
I signed with Church Hill with Peterberg Mark Wahberg and Sam was the manager but it was but it was Peter Welch and Mark Wahberg were the face
Peter Peter Bberg and Mark Wahberg the face of it. Yeah
Ken Rideout
Peterberg but but Sam was like the dayto-day guy and he ran the Church Hill Gym in Santa Monica. I know.
Regis Prograis
Yeah. Sam did everything, you know, but I invited Jay. I said, "Look, the contract over, but you I still want you to be a part of it, but he wanted to be the full manager."
And then he the contract was supposed to he he tried to get more money. I'm like, for more time and more I think the first contract was like 5 years. He tried to get a contract for like seven years. I'm like for more money. I'm like like or the same 33%. I'm like why would I do that? That's insane. You know the contract
Ken Rideout
When you have leverage though. One thing to just to clarify for the audience, when you have the leverage and you sign in with the new manager, the manager will give you a big signing bonus.
Do you have to pay that back?
Is it is it essentially in advance?
Regis Prograis
No. I mean, they go they'll get it back from the your purse,
Ken Rideout
But they're going to get the 33% now, but that that signing bonus was just it was it was a lower percentage. Way
Regis Prograis
Lower. So, let's just say it's 10%. Now I'm I own 10% of you and as a thank you. Here's a check for quarter million bucks, whatever it is. Yes. That Okay. So So you tell Jay, "Jay, I've got this offer." I didn't tell No, I didn't tell him that. I said, "Look, you can still cuz I know I was one of the I was a free agent. I literally just came off Showbox. My record is 20 and0 with 17 knockouts. I was ranked number two or something like that in the world."
And so, and I'm a free agent. I know what's coming my way. I already know what's coming my way. So then after that, that's when I really started just the money just started running.
Ken Rideout
And what year was that when you signed with um Church Hill?
Is that around 15, 16?
Regis Prograis
Maybe 15 or 16.
Ken Rideout
Cuz I think that's when I met you.
Regis Prograis
Yeah, when I lived in LA.
Ken Rideout
Yep. Okay.
Regis Prograis
No, not when I lived there. No, that's before. No, I met you when I lived in LA.
Ken Rideout
Yes, that was
Oh, I think I met you before you moved there. But yeah, I remember the specifically that they signed they signed you cuz they didn't have a ton of guys.
Regis Prograis
No, they had about two or three guys at a time.
Ken Rideout
But I remember Mark was involved. Mark Wahberg was involved. Okay. So you tell Jay what? Hey Jay.
Regis Prograis
I said look the contract over. You know I still you I still use you. I still have you in the you know. But he gave me another contract which was which which was worse than the first one. Like why would you give me a insane like it was like seven the first one was 5 years. The second was seven years. So you want me in my whole almost my whole career? No. And then it was for
I think a bigger percentage. Like why did I do that?
Ken Rideout
Okay. So when you told him like no dice what did he say? I'm going to assume
Regis Prograis
He didn't want No, he didn't want to do it. And that was
Ken Rideout
He just said like, "Okay, get out of here."
Regis Prograis
He just didn't want to do it. I was like, "You sure?" Like, he didn't want to do it. So, all right. So, then I went to LA and that was it. Once I went to LA, they they they turned my mind, you know, cuz I was out there. First off, they flew me out there. Um they flew me and all my people out there. I met with Wahberg and Peter, went to the movie set, all that stuff. We on the beach. They put me up in nice hotels right on Santa Monica Beach.
I'm like,
Shutters. I forgot what the name of the the hotel,
Ken Rideout
But all of a sudden, like you just described your childhood. You're like living in garages a few years before. Now you're with Mark Wahberg, flying first class, staying at the nicest hotels, the
Regis Prograis
Hotel on the water on right in Santa Monica Beach. I'm like, man, it's
Ken Rideout
Feel like you like hit the lottery.
Regis Prograis
Yes. It's like it's nowhere I'm going back. I can't I can't go back. Okay. I can't go backwards, you know?
Ken Rideout
No, cuz you got good You got good taste. Like
Regis Prograis
Now I do. I didn't have it at time. I didn't have it at the time, but now I do. It's like I it was just a eye opener for me. We was on the beach man at the time with the girls. Oh, it was just I loved it.
Ken Rideout
I I mean just now seeing you pull in in this beautiful like top-of-the-line Porsche. I'm like, "Oh, man. He made it. I love it. I love to see it because I know I know where you came from and to see this is just awesome. So, who's the first fight you have under the new management? What's the first fight or is that the box?
Regis Prograis
I think it's Judas." No, Judas Andango. So, I fought him same thing. Knocked him out second round, you know. knocked Julius out second round and it it really that really put me on the map because the fight before that Crawford stopped him but he he Julius was a former unified champion. He had two belts and him and Crawford fought for undisputed and um Crawford stopped him in the third. I stopped him in the second round so that really put my name up there. I really beat the hell out of Julius and Julia if you look at the height difference Jul I was looking up to him he was so tall he was like 6'1 or something like that.
Ken Rideout
For a fight like that, are you at all in I know the answer, but are you at all intimidated?
Regis Prograis
No. I wanted to hurt him. I thought
Ken Rideout
Do you Do you ever remember going into a fight and feeling like, "Oh [ __ ] man. This guy is really good. I'm I'm
Regis Prograis
Probably my l my at the end of my career." I tell people now, don't judge me after 35.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Regis Prograis
Don't don't judge my say the same thing.
I say don't judge me 35 and before. If you look at 35 and before,
I lost one fight. Yeah,
I lost to um Josh Taylor and I thought I still thought I won that fight.
Ken Rideout
So, we'll get into that fight with Josh Taylor was I remember watching LA with my wife cuz my whole family knows you, right? We've been friends for a long time and I remember my my wife's like I think she might even been crying afterwards and I'm like, dude, it was a great fight. Sometimes you can win even if you lose. It's like
Regis Prograis
That's why I felt like I won after I lost.
Ken Rideout
So, so back to like where you are in the in the journey with Churchill. So, they get you in Dongo, you beat the [ __ ] out. They must be thinking like we hit the jackpot.
Regis Prograis
Man, I man I I whooped And real bad. Then after that, we fought um before the Super Series I fought in New Orleans. Excuse me. I fought in New Orleans. I fought Jose Velasco in New Orleans. I stopped him in the A round. Then after that, we go to the World Super Series.
Ken Rideout
And what is that?
Regis Prograis
The World Super Series at the time, um it was a tournament, the best in the world. If you sign up, it's like I loved it because I always wanted that like, uh you have to fight this. It's no ducking in there. You have to fight. The winner fights this win. The winner fights.
It's a bracket. You have to fight. So really the And it kind of went the way I thought it was going to go. I felt like I was going to fight either Josh Taylor or Ivan Bar cuz that was the bracket how it was the bracket. It was like
This. It was like me on this side. Everybody felt like I was the favorite going to the whole tournament. I was the favorite going to the tournament. So on my side and then it's this side. And for me, I thought it was it was like the um either I recheek or or Josh Taylor was going to be the opponent for me. So, I remember meeting him and stuff and I'm just looking at him and we kind of, you know, um sizing each other up and stuff like that.
I felt cuz we we met in Moscow and like I said, man, that's like for me coming from New Orleans being in Moscow. I know it's insane. Like I just for me, I had just fought in New Orleans. I was the only one that just fought too. Josh, he had to leave because he had a wedding or something. He had got married. Something I don't know something he had going on. But I we all met there for the um thing. We had to go um take pictures and do all
The pre-ournament. Yeah. Press conference and all that type of stuff. And I I was sizing him up, sizing Barek up. But
I just felt like that's that was going to be the fight. So everybody like I was the favorite though going into the fight. I was the favorite of the whole tournament, you know. But I just Yeah, I love that. I love that experience.
And that trophy was so insane.
Ken Rideout
That cool trophy.
Regis Prograis
gold trophy, man, with the belts and stuff. For me, that was better. Like, it would have been better than the belts to me. Josh Taylor got it, but it was
Ken Rideout
There's a there's a great picture of Usyk with every single light heavyweight. Uh, no. Um, what was he? The cruiserweight.
Regis Prograis
Cruiserweight design.
Ken Rideout
Yeah. All the cruiserweight belts like this and that big [clears throat] ass trophy. I had that picture for a long time. You know, I got those like pictures by and I had that picture up there for the longest time cuz it just looks so cool. He had everything. undefeated Olympic gold medal, every single cruiserweight belt,
And the freaking
Regis Prograis
Is a bad man.
He is a He's a bad boy. He's a bad boy.
Ken Rideout
Um, all right. So, you run through everyone. I I remember like it was yesterday till probably like 18
Regis Prograis
18 19
I think 19. Yeah, 19 2019 cuz that's when I became the fight before that became a world champion. He did too. You know, we became
Ken Rideout
During the tournament that happened to be a fight for a title. One of the guys had the belt. Who was it?
Career relic. And he had what belt?
Regis Prograis
The WBA.
Ken Rideout
Well, what weight?
Regis Prograis
140.
Ken Rideout
Uh, Junior Welt.
Regis Prograis
Junior Welter weight. Yeah. 140.
Ken Rideout
Okay. So, you beat him and you take your first world title and you move on to the finals.
Regis Prograis
Then I go to the finals again. You must be like riding a high like dude I'm loved and I didn't think the fight was going to happen. And the thing is they kind of I mean I don't know if it's the develop thing or what but they kind of they kind of forced me into a corner because it's like and I'm glad the fight happened over there but
Why I'm the number one seed in in a in a in a tournament. I'm no I'm expect to win the whole thing. They made me go over there to the UK and stuff like that fight from Scotland. [clears throat]
Yeah. So it's basically his backyard of course you know and
Ken Rideout
Makes a big difference.
Regis Prograis
It does make a big difference. I I do feel like if the fight was here in the United States, I would have
Ken Rideout
It was raised or sin. I mean, it could have gone either way.
Regis Prograis
It could have went either way. I do feel like, but still, even leading up to the fight, all the stuff and cap and all that stuff, like we had to just all the adjustments we had to do. And one [clears throat] thing we had to do, one thing they they kind of I'm not going to say they tricked me into doing, but I had so much me to do out there. When I was in the UK, I was doing so much me. They wanted me to do so much stuff.
And it's like they're while they doing it, they playing tricks with your mind. I'll talk about that too for other fights coming up. The media can get in your mind.
Ken Rideout
Of course,
Regis Prograis
The media can really really get you. They they have these um these narratives and they can they can kind of get in your mind and stuff like that. So, u man at the time I was doing so man I know he was probably just training and resting and I was doing media. They had me man some days I was like in a car for about seven hours just in traffic cuz London super traffic a lot of traffic.
Ken Rideout
The thing is like I wished that um at the time like I had more of a role with you other than just friends to be like no he ain't doing any of this [ __ ] because without winning we don't have anything to tell.
You know how it is and you know from from having that loss. It's like when you're the winner it's like the part the train keeps rolling. The loser is like back of the line. Right. Right. Right.
And especially in boxing where one loss can be devastating. It's it shouldn't be that way because a lot of times you come back better than before the better than before the loss.
Regis Prograis
Yeah. I need I I love my loss. I needed my lawsuit.
Ken Rideout
I just wish that someone would have said like, "Nah, we just need after we win, we'll do whatever you want, but during this last last few weeks, no."
Regis Prograis
Yeah. It was They Bobby said some of that a little bit, but cuz they wanted me to do way more stuff, man. They wanted me to They wanted me to cuz I was free, you know? I was free diving, right?
Yeah.
And spear fishing and stuff like at the time. They wanted me that when I was living in LA, they wanted me to jump in the the London whatever. They wanted me to jump in there and go to the bottom and and go out there and it was rain. It was cold. But I was like
Ken Rideout
Cold and it's disgusting.
Regis Prograis
My dumb ass wanted to do it. I was like, I can do I can because it's like 50 feet. I can go to 50 feet. They was like, yeah, go do that and see if you could do it. We record it. I'm like I was like, hell no. He got a fight. Why would he do that? So
Just And then I was I had to do I had to film at museums. I had a man I had to do all kind of stuff like that. Walking through all
Walking through all the people and crowd. I'm I'm pretty sure and my dad was my dad was there at the time. He was like, "Why y'all doing this?" You know, like you [snorts] probably doing all this media and Josh Taylor probably,
Ken Rideout
But they're taking advantage of your naive. They're probably like, "You don't know any better."
Regis Prograis
Yeah. I didn't know I didn't ain't know no better looking back on it, but I I didn't know better.
Ken Rideout
And at this point, you're training with Bobby.
Regis Prograis
Bobby is the trainer. Bobby Bobby Bettney.
Ken Rideout
Bobby Benton. He's a good good coach.
Regis Prograis
Bobby, good coach. Bobby.
Ken Rideout
So, he was working with you for that. Okay. So, coming into the fight, like what do you think during the fight? I remember towards the end like I think we talked about this maybe you got a little tired in the late rounds cuz I remember thinking like oh come on close this out you can do this.
Regis Prograis
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't feel like I got tired man. I don't know like so the early rounds I I came I remember I outboxed him you know. I was out boxing him but then we got into the fight. And so we got to the fight he kind of stepped it up. He got into a fight. I think it kind of it made a little close and stuff like that. But what happened was one of my other trainers, Chris Chris Hernandez, I forgot which round it was, but he he came.
He was like, "Man, what what you doing? You'll give up all this hardware. Step it up." And so that's when I woke up and I start stepping up, but it probably, like I said, maybe it was too late. Maybe I could have stepped up a round or two before that, but I remember hitting him. I remember like
Coming out even in the first round, hitting him with body shots. I heard and just outboxing him, moving, you know, he couldn't The thing is he couldn't outbox me at all. Was was his eye all swollen shut?
His his eye was swollen shut. His eye was real bad. It was real bad. His eye was swollen shut. And I was hitting remember backing him up and all that type of stuff. But one thing in the fight, I talked about this a bunch of times, man. It was one round. I think it was round nine. And I remember he threw a jab. He threw a real hard jab. He stepped in. Boom. He was southpaw too. He stepped in a real hard jab cuz he couldn't touch me cuz I was real at the time I was real slippery.
My head was just always doing this. So it was just things was just going. So he had to hit me in the body and stuff or get in the inside and try to hit me. But from the outside he couldn't hit me. I was out boxing him. I was just out boxing him. So but I remember one time it was I think it was round nine. He stepped in a real hard jab and I went I slipped it easy too. Real easy. And it hit me on my shoulder and I heard the crowd say ah.
And I'm like damn I'm probably going to lose. That's when I thought it. I'm like damn probably going to lose because they thought that punch landed. I'm I knew the punch didn't land. It didn't land at all. Like I literally I remember him stepping a real real hard jab and it was just it was real vivid and I just I slipped with either right left. I went boom something like that and it just hit me on my shoulder and I heard a crowd [sighs] like something happened.
Ken Rideout
Again that whole crowd can affect the judges too cuz the judges are human beings. They're watching the fight. They're listening to the reaction like oh you know you look down for a split second. Those guys again they're human. They've had they've had caught judges looking at their phone during the fight. Like they're just [ __ ] people. And a lot of times they're not even like good people.
Regis Prograis
Yeah. Exactly.
Ken Rideout
So you're not It isn't like
Well the judges said this like Yeah. Okay. Well, [ __ ] I said that. My opinions are just as valid. Just so happens that they're the ones that are assigned the fight and they're in the UK. And again, the fight was raised at thin. I didn't feel like
Regis Prograis
It was a close.
Ken Rideout
I didn't feel like he got robbed. I felt like this could be a draw either way, but it was home. But he had that deep amateur pedigree, I would say on paper, if two people were looking at it,
I feel like the promoters could be like, who could be more marketable here? The white kid from Scotland who has like this he's a handsome kid. I mean, you're both handsome, but like I could just see like
Regis Prograis
Yeah.
Ken Rideout
You know what I mean? It's like all these things influence the decision. And I'm just wondering like was all that [ __ ] going through your head cuz I remember thinking like he has to beat this guy up to get a decision.
Regis Prograis
Yeah. No, it it was going through my head in beginning and stuff because that was the narrative going into the fight. Everybody saying that you got to knock him out and I thought I was going to knock him out. I definitely thought I did too.
I thought I was going to stop for me. I thought I was going to stop Olympic gold medalist.
He was Olympic something a silver something like I
Ken Rideout
don't know. He was the best competition to that point. Right.
Regis Prograis
I'm I'm going to give him credit for this. He wasn't scared of me.
Ken Rideout
No, he was scared.
I remember the the trash talking wasn't crazy aggressive, but I remember thinking like, "Oh, this kid is just as confident at Reg."
Regis Prograis
He wasn't He was He was confident. He wasn't scared of me because going to all the fights, I can feel my opponents. I can look at him. I can see they they got a little something. They they might be a little fearful.
Ken Rideout
Even Diaz.
Regis Prograis
I think Diaz was he was confident, but he was I think Diaz was confident. Andongo, I think he was confident, too. But he I think he underestimated me.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Regis Prograis
And I think Diaz underestimated me, too.
But there was they had false confidence. Josh Taylor had real confidence. He didn't underestimate me. He thought he was better than me. That's why. So he wasn't scared of me. He, you know, but he he didn't underestimate me. He knew how good I was, but he he still thought he was, you know, he still thought he was better than me. That's why he wasn't scared. I could tell he wasn't scared of me. Some Sometimes you could tell look at people eyes, you could tell
He not scared. So, I do give him credit for that.
Ken Rideout
That's the one thing I loved about you too before the fight. If the if the opponent kept it respectful and was just like, "Yeah, I'm gonna win. I'm gonna do this." Then you would do that. But if the opponent wanted to get tough and talk shitty, even when you had the dispute that with your strength guy, it was like, "Hey, we have this dispute. Let's settle it."
Oh, you want to go public with everything? Okay, let's go public. And like you you're not afraid to get like down in the mud with people, but that isn't your preference. Whereas Floyd Mayweather just wanted to like get down or Javante Davis, they they want to be down like certain guys like love that
Regis Prograis
Nastiness.
Ken Rideout
Or like a Broner is the worst.
Regis Prograis
Oh yeah,
Ken Rideout
That guy.
Regis Prograis
Yeah,
Ken Rideout
That poor guy, man. Looks like he's come apart at the scene. But um after the fight though, it looked like you and Josh Taylor developed almost like a friendship.
Regis Prograis
I mean, mutual respect. It was respect. We took He actually texted me like, "Hey, you want to have a burger?" or something like that. We met, we talked, and you know, that was it. It was, you know, it was all good.
Ken Rideout
Respect to him because he, like you said, he had mad confidence. He was, you know, borderline respectful. Like, it wasn't crazy. But
Regis Prograis
The thing because we were sitting across each other and like was looking at each other and I could tell like, "All right." He not scared. I mean, he was like, "Oh, you this." And he was I can see through your fake bravado and stuff like that. Like, this ain't fake. Like I I say, "You going to get it like you going to see you going to get it." So, we was that we was both real confident. We were we both was like super super confident in ourselves, you know, cuz I was I'm always like I'm [snorts] cocky confident.
Ken Rideout
But you're not a bully.
Regis Prograis
But I'm not a bully. I'm just like I'm just cool about it, you know? That's why I like all right, you going to see, you know? I'm not I don't got to be scared. I'm not scared or nothing like that, but I'm just like I'm cool. You know,
Ken Rideout
I thought, to be honest, looking at the both of you, I thought he came across more like a bully.
He felt like his behavior was more bullyish, but credit to him, like it's all part of the game. Like you said, it's the first person I felt that wasn't scared, but like who even gives a [ __ ] at the end of the day? You're going to get in and punch each other in the face.
Regis Prograis
But that stuff all matters,
Ken Rideout
And he played that game be perfectly. Like he executed. He did everything he had to do to beat you and just beat you by like a point. Right.
Regis Prograis
Right. Yeah. I should have stepped up a little earlier, but it is what it is. It is.
Ken Rideout
So, what happens after that fight?
Regis Prograis
After that,
Ken Rideout
By the way, how much was how much did you get for the World Series?
You don't talk about money. I ain't talking about money. I don't talk about no money. I don't talk about money. I would only ask you about stuff that was that is potentially public. That stuff wasn't public.
Regis Prograis
No, because people were saying stuff online what they thought, but it wasn't true.
Ken Rideout
Okay. Yeah. No, I didn't mean to put you on the spot. I typically ask
Pro athletes like the stuff's public. So, but I get it with boxing. So, I didn't mean to offend you about the money, so I'm sorry about the money.
All right. So, but it was a lot of money.
Regis Prograis
Yeah.
Ken Rideout
Like life-changing.
Regis Prograis
Yeah. I actually after so after that I actually I went to um the crazy thing bro like so we thinking like I thought when I was younger I thought man you lose you feel so bad man I lost and I felt good like the crazy thing like I'm not saying good from the loss but like in life I felt good man I was living in LA at the time I went back and I was like I went back home I used to be you know spear fishing I was on Malibu just looking like I love life
Then I went to Hawaii I like that I love it. Like I'm loving life. Then after that, um, right after that was like Christmas. Then I bought my mom a house. Before I bought my house, I bought my mom her house or whatever. I surprised her with a house. I bought it cash. 3 315 or something like that. Just cash money. Bought my mom a house. It's like, damn, bro. I'm just
Ken Rideout
How' she react?
Regis Prograis
She cried. She loved it. And tell you a story about that. A whole different story. But, you know, at the time she liked the house and stuff like that. And it was like I was just like I just felt good. I just felt real good about life. life was just really really good. So it's not even about wins or losses like I just felt like good about life period.
Ken Rideout
Yeah. And and and that's the other thing I love about you is you do the most exotic traveling of anyone. Again, you wouldn't think that this kid from like the area New Orleans where you're from now is like traveling all over the world. But I call you be like, "Yo, I'm in Bangkok or like some other crazy place." And I'm like, "Who you with?" "Oh, I'm with a friend or I'm with Raquel." Like just you just did it. Yeah.
So, what was the story? What happened with the house with your mom? You said there's a crazy story.
Regis Prograis
Oh, crazy. I don't put on blast. She didn't want it. She didn't want the damn house, but talk about that a whole different time. Yeah. But she and she eventually she in and out. But it end up being a good thing because um she didn't want I turned to investment. I turned to investment property. It was Airbnb. It worked out good for me at the time. So, it was cool. But yeah, it was just I remember just after that. But then after
So, after that I was living in LA. that I moved back to Texas and I feel like maybe LA made me a little soft too. That's why I was thinking like, damn, maybe cuz that was the first fight
I like I moved to LA after I fought Relic. After I won the title, then I moved to LA. I was like, I got to be here, you know, cuz we did camps. We did we used to go to LA for two weeks um and do a camp for two weeks and I remember and I still got one of the videos.
We was um we was in a palisades. You lived in Palisades, right? Yeah. We was in the I love the Palisades, man. We was in the Palisades in the house for camp and man, I just loved waking up every day being the Palisades. say was heaven on earth to me. I never felt better about myself when I was there.
Ken Rideout
I love and listen, it's crazy expensive and there are some [ __ ] Anytime you get expensive area, you get these arrogant [ __ ] But most of the people were awesome. Like uh Chich from Chich and Chong lived down the street. Chris Bosch had a house like in the neighborhood. You see these people everywhere. Ben Affle like Steven Spielberg lived across the way. But the view from my house, I mean, it was stupid expensive. Like, but the view from my house of the ocean on one side, then you know, I lived up in the mountains and just being out there in the m, it was it was heaven on earth.
Regis Prograis
Man, it really was. I love that.
Ken Rideout
So, who was the fight after Josh Taylor?
Regis Prograis
Then I had to go back down. I fought um so I had to wait a year after. So,
Ken Rideout
Pandemic.
Regis Prograis
Oh, that's right.
Ken Rideout
I remember we recorded some content for uh like the zone. They were like, "Hey, let's see if you guys have chemistry." And we were doing a bunch of stuff together. Because I was supposed to fight Maurice Hooker. Yes.
Regis Prograis
I had a fight with Maurice. So that's what happened. I was I was in camp for Maurice Hooker.
Ken Rideout
He was nice.
Regis Prograis
Yeah. Pandemic hit. After pandemic hit, we try to revisit with the zone
And um he blew up to 147.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Regis Prograis
And I was like, I'm not I'm not fighting at 47, you know. I'm going to fight at 40. I want to be a champion at one. I was so adamant about being a two-time champion. That's what I really wanted to do. So I was like, I'm not going to 47. 40 for 43. No, I'm going to 140. That's why no I think I think we said 43 or something like that and we just couldn't
Ken Rideout
Hooker just had a hard time with weight almost
Regis Prograis
He couldn't make the weight he was too big so that fight got scratched and then after I had to wait more so then I end up moving back to Texas and um then I fought Javvante when Javvante fought Leo Santa Cruz I fought on that and I fought a dude and um I stopped him third round they was all think oh he washed up he this he had he had his chance at the top and I I fought Juan Horaldes same thing I stopped him. I stopped him in like the third round and so they're like, "All right, he's still who he is."
Ken Rideout
Do you remember though after the Josh Taylor fight, I feel like the promoter basically was like, "Oh, Regis, all right, back down." Like almost like disrespectful in a way that like you're down to like [ __ ] undercard fights and like I remember thinking like you were fighting almost like a club at some point. I'm like, "What is going on here? The guy lost a razor thin fight to this like super
Regis Prograis
They put you back. They put you down. It's like call it the boxing purgatory. Once you lose a fight in boxing, that's kind of what they do. But for me, I always believed in myself. I moved back to Texas. I got back on my grind. Um I like I said, I feel like when I was in LA, I was kind of spoiled. I loved LA too much, you know? It was like a when I lived there, it was like we had pandemic. It was like a party house type of thing.
It was like it was too much.
Ken Rideout
I remember thinking like, dude, what? There's too many [ __ ] people in this house.
Regis Prograis
We had a bunch of people in the house. We was playing pandemic. We was playing ping pong every day. Just enjoy. We had people over there every day. It's like, no, that's not the fighter lifestyle. And I did a lot of mistakes in my career, but that's, you know, but then I had to lock back in. I moved back to Texas and I locked in and you know, back around my trainers and stuff like back in the gym, back around my trainers and I I came back, got back on the winning trail.
I I fought Juan Herald, I fought Ivan Red Catch and I fought um Terrell McKenna and I stopped all them. Then after that, I get the the shot with Ber the world title.
Ken Rideout
The thing is with boxing, like you're the prospect, now you're the man and you're the main event and everyone's coming to see you, one loss, even as close as that was to Josh Taylor. It's not like, all right, he's in with the next number one contender. You're either like the the man or an opponent, right?
And it's like cuz who wants to fight you? Like you you you theoretically could have been the best in the world. I don't want to fight if if you have a prospect who's 19 and0 with 16 knockouts, you're not putting him in with Reges. Reg is going to run him over and the game's over for their fighter. So they're like, "Now what do we do with Regis?" They're like in this, you know, unless you're a mega draw cuz you're an Olympic gold medalist, you're in a tough spot.
And were you feeling this like [ __ ] I'm in this terrible spot.
Regis Prograis
It was I definitely felt I felt it. Yeah. Nobody wanted to fight me, you know, if they wanted to put me in there with the pro, but they did. They put me in there with her, one of the guys out here in Vegas, and he thought my time was up and
Ken Rideout
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Regis Prograis
I stopped him, you know. So that was like damn.
Ken Rideout
So you get three big wins after Josh, like three relatively easy wins for you. And then who do you face?
Regis Prograis
Zapeda for the belt.
Ken Rideout
Oh, okay. For the WBC.
Regis Prograis
The WBC. And that's
Ken Rideout
Where was that fight?
Regis Prograis
That was in um in LA.
Ken Rideout
Okay. What happened?
Regis Prograis
In LA. Stopped him. Same thing. Stopped him 11 round and I'm back. Back being a world champion.
Ken Rideout
What year was that?
Regis Prograis
22. 22 23. One of those one of those years. Um
Ken Rideout
And do you remember the post-fight interview where you're like did you lash out like yo you guys thought you were done with me? I'm back.
Regis Prograis
I I don't even know. I just was so excited. Like I that's what I wanted to be. I waited three years for that. Three years to be a champion again. And I that's why I was so adamant about not fighting Maurice Hooker because I wanted to be a champion at 140. You know, I kept my weight down. I did everything. I didn't blow up or nothing like that.
I stayed training every single day. And I was like, I'm going to be a champion at 140. And it was like it took me a long time, but
I did it. And it just felt like super good to to be there.
Ken Rideout
Yeah. I remember seeing you get that belt. I was like, "Oh, and then end up being a free agent again." So, it's like, man,
So the management contract ran out of those guys. By the way, during this, one of the things of signing with Peter is nice is he's like a world, one of the best directors in the world, producer, director. He put you in some movies.
Regis Prograis
Got some movies and was the one in Boston, Spencer Confidential with Mark Wahberg. And then I did one with um called Bay You Caviar with um Cuba Gun Jr. that was shot in New Orleans. How was that?
It was cool, man. I like I like I mean I don't see myself being an actor because you got to be on a movie set um all day. Especially the one we did in Boston, man. I was in Boston in January. Cold. Super cold. Like no, I don't like it, you know. But anyways, um so when I was
Ken Rideout
an opportunity for you to wear all your fancy designer clothes,
Regis Prograis
I know we had to wear the stuff. We had to wear the the set clothes. I had to be like a gangster or something in the movie. So I had to wear what they put on me, you know. But it's crazy cuz when I was there, well Pete was there when I was when I first came. Pete was there. He was the dire. So I was in his trailer laying down sleeping all that type of stuff. I remember one time I I went lay in his trailer and it was all nice, you know.
He got a big nice trailer. Him and Wahberg came in there. Him and Wahberg his son um they came in there talking and stuff. They're like, "Who was sleeping?" They s they came and they saw me. I was just I was laying down. I heard I was like up.
You had like a small part.
Ken Rideout
So the other actors who have major roles, they're probably all intimidated like, "Oh [ __ ] there's Mark Peter." Meanwhile, you're in there on your feet.
Regis Prograis
I'm in there sleeping. They I hear him in there talking stuff. I'm in there asleep. I'm like I'm tired. I'm in there sleeping and they in Pete trailer in his bed in his trailer and stuff like that cuz he said, "Yeah, come in here." So, I'm in there. But with the So, but then when Pete left, man, used to s the trailer.
It was like a It was like a bathroom. The trailer was so small cuz he left and then they took his trailer away and I had to be there for like one more day.
Ken Rideout
Oh. With your own trailer and they had
Regis Prograis
My trailer with my I'm like, "Oh, this what y'all got?" The extra trailer. I'm like, "Oh, this got to get hell no."
Ken Rideout
I got a similar funny story for you. In 2000 2000 or 2001, I was working at Caner Fitzgerald in London. Uh, and we took a bunch of people to the Monaco Grand Prix, Monte Carlo, and they rented two mega yachts. So, we had all these like customers and high-profile people, and there was a guy, I think it was Ryan Giggs, who played for Manchester United. By the way, I don't know any of them. And and the people I'm with who are British. They're like
They're looking at these guys like it's Tom Brady and uh Sugar Ray Leonard. And I'm like, "What do you guys do?" "Oh, we play soccer or football." I'm like, "Oh, cool. For who? Manchester United." I'm like, "Oh, yeah. I've heard of them." Like I do know I knew nothing about.
So I I go in I I was drinking doing drugs at this time in my life. I So during the the day before the race, there's like time trial. So I fall asleep on a sofa in the main saloon of this mega yard. There's just people everywhere. So I wake up and I'm kind of awake but my eyes still closed and there's like three or four guys talking and the guy's like, "Yeah, you know, British guy." He's like, "Yeah, they gave me." And I think they're bankers.
I think they all work at Caner or they're cuz guys like, "Yeah, I got a signing bonus, you know. I think they're giving me like 15 million pounds, blah blah blah." I'm thinking, "Whoa, what [ __ ] trading desk is this guy on? 15 million pounds." I go outside. I'm like, "Dude, see that guy right there? He I think he works at Ken. He just got a 15 million pound signing bonus." The guy's like, "Are you [ __ ] crazy? That's Ryan Giggs. He's like one of the best football player." I think it it could have been someone else, but Ryan was there cuz that's the guy who I was talking to.
He's like, "Yeah, I play football." I'm like, he must have thought like, "What a dope. This guy doesn't know me." But it was the funniest thing cuz I woke up thinking like, "Oh my god, I'm being grossly underpaid."
Regis Prograis
Right. Right. Right.
Ken Rideout
All right. So, the movie wraps up and then that's one of the benefits of working with Peter as the manager and Mark is like you get these opportunities.
Regis Prograis
go out there, go to Boston, get paid just to like have fun, be on the set and stuff. But, you know, it was
Ken Rideout
So, when that contract ends, they don't want to renew.
Regis Prograis
I don't know. But I think they broke up. I think Churchill kind of
Ken Rideout
Yeah, there was some kind of conflict.
Regis Prograis
Something happened with with with with Sam and Pete and stuff like that. Something happened cuz I still talk to Pete. I still talk to Pete to this day. Me and him still cool.
Ken Rideout
I met him at your house. Super nice guy.
Regis Prograis
Yeah. Yeah. Sure did. Right. So, Pete was um Pete I still talk to him. He's still cool. I can still, you know, I we still cool, but I think Sam stayed in boxing. Pete didn't really want to stay in.
Ken Rideout
Pete just
Regis Prograis
he wanted Pete wanted to be in a dress room with the fighters. Pete just like boxing. He go, you go at his um his gym, go spa and stuff like that. He just want he want to have a few fighters just to do it, you know.
Ken Rideout
But Sam, if you're the manager and you win a belt, like he could get himself a copy of the belt and have those in his office. And honestly for myself, like I'd want to do that. When I worked with Teddy Alice, we trained Alex Vosdic for light heavyweight unification fight WBC we had. And um better be have had the IBF and then we were like, "Oh, if we win these, we'll get both of them." And I'm thinking selfishly to myself like, "Oh, I'll just get a copy of each of those belts cuz the organization will send the fighter as many belts as he won." I'm like, "Oh, come on." So I get it from Pete's.
It's like a passion thing for him. And the money is I mean those guys are super
Regis Prograis
He didn't care about that stuff. Yeah. He just wanted to do it and um like I but Sam stayed in boxing so they kind of they broke up and stuff. Um
Ken Rideout
And Sam didn't seem like a boxing guy. He was like uh kind of like
Regis Prograis
Sam was a good man at the time. I think Sam was a good man. He did some stuff that we didn't agree on. But
Ken Rideout
Yeah, but he didn't come across to me like a boxing guy. Like he didn't come from boxing. He was Pete's partner, right?
Regis Prograis
He he was he was he was running a gym, you know? He kind of but that's what he wanted to do. So Sam's still a boxing guy.
Ken Rideout
He's a nice guy. Yeah, it just didn't strike me as a bartender.
Regis Prograis
I saw him at the um I saw him at the the last fight in um in London with Yeah. when I first kind of been he was one.
Ken Rideout
Okay. So, what happens after um with the free agency? Who comes around? Who ends up being your manager?
Regis Prograis
Oh, man. That's now this is a mess right now. So, then I let some friends, some people not even friends, some people getting I'm getting two right now because I let some people getting in my mix. Um people just wanted to be in there, you know. know people won't kind of be in my mixing store. I let some people in there and even right now I'm still going through real noise and [ __ ]
Ken Rideout
I wish in hindsight that you had called me and said hey cuz I always like give you unbiased opinion and just be like don't do that you would have said like hey here's what I'm facing and I would have said at this stage of your career I'd argue you don't need a manager.
Regis Prograis
I needed one but not them.
Ken Rideout
Yeah but you don't need like you need an opinion. You probably need more of a lawyer who's worked in boxing.
Like there's a handful of them. David um was a guy from New York, really good guy. David something. I'm spacing on his last name, but you just need someone to look over the contracts and basically a lawyer and like
You know what you're doing at that point. So who' you end up what happened?
Regis Prograis
My trainer at the time, he came to my house and
Ken Rideout
Bobby,
Regis Prograis
Not Bobby. Evans, the strength condition coach.
Oh. Oh, Evan. Big we got, you know, he came. He was like, "Man, you need to hire my friend. He need that." And at the time, I didn't want a manager because the stuff Sam did. I wasn't trusting nobody, you know, because Sam did some stuff that I was like, "Man, you know, he put me in some mess and stuff like that." So then I was like, I didn't know who to trust. I really didn't, you know, it was it was a hard thing for me.
So I let somebody maybe I did talk to you about that, but I didn't tell you what I was doing. But anyways, so I had him I had this other dude come in. He was one of Evans friends came in. He was like, "Oh man, let him do this. Let him work for you." Like, all right. So, then the dude came to my house and it took a while. I didn't trust him at first anyway, but it took a while and he was like, "Chimp, I'll never he looked at my face, champ, I'll never charge you a dime." And now he su me.
But anyways, you know,
Ken Rideout
How's he going to make money if he's not charging me a dime? And why would he do that?
Regis Prograis
Well, his thing was he wanted to he wanted to um put people underneath me. That's why
Ken Rideout
He wanted to be a manager and say, "I manage Regis, although he doesn't pay me. And now I can hire all I can sign all these guys.
Regis Prograis
He wanted to open a promotional company in my name and run these guys under the bring a bunch of guys. So that's how you in theory sounds like a good idea.
Yeah, that's what he wanted to do. But at the time I told you at the time I was a free agent. I was like when I had I was the world champion a free agent.
Ken Rideout
So you could have got another big signing bonus from a manager theoretically.
Regis Prograis
Yes, I probably could have. But that's when I went signed with um I signed with Matram. I had I had deals. That's when I had a deal from Matum and from Top Rank and um I end up going Matum way.
Ken Rideout
Okay.
Regis Prograis
But he was I let him be in the mix and like I said and it it it still cost me right there.
Ken Rideout
How did that go sideways though if he didn't have a deal to ever get paid under you? What happened? What went bad?
Regis Prograis
He just said he sold me. He literally said I So
He said he was my manager. He said he
Ken Rideout
Okay. So what was he entitled to that he didn't get? He he shouldn't be getting nothing. But
If the contract said your manager thing, we don't have a contract. We never had a contract.
Oh, okay.
Regis Prograis
We never had no type of
Ken Rideout
Does the Ali act protect us where a fighter guys are trying to get paid for a fighter? Like what did you do for me? I signed I got the deal.
Regis Prograis
Supposedly this stuff I don't know, you know, but I had another friend doing
Ken Rideout
You got the deal with Matt room.
Regis Prograis
I got a deal with Matt.
Ken Rideout
So what did he do to say I'm going to sue you because you didn't pay me?
Regis Prograis
I don't I don't know. I don't know what he was doing. I don't know. But I had to The thing is like he he was this was a while ago now. I mean this was like 2 3 years ago now. So he um
Yeah he was suing in Texas if somebody sue you and I let it go because he never had he don't have a contract. He said he'll never charge me none of that stuff. So with me I let it go for a long I just I got stuff to the house like I don't care. But I saw a lawyer like nah you got to take care of this you know because it could be serious. So I had to hire a lawyer. I had to pay a lawyer to kind of deal with this stuff.
Ken Rideout
You would expect that a lawyer would say even if you didn't like, "Yeah, you should deal with this and hire me."
Regis Prograis
Yeah. Well, I got Yeah. He said, "Deal, you got to deal with this stuff." Right. So, I had to pay I got to pay a lawyer to get that off me. Um,
Ken Rideout
So in the meantime, you signed with Matt.
Regis Prograis
Sound Matt.
Ken Rideout
Now you're the champion. What's the next fight?
Regis Prograis
Then I fought Zerilla. I fought Zerilla in New Orleans. Um, wasn't a good fight. I dropped him, you know, got the decision, but it was it was a close fight. He just ran around. So then that's when everybody start figuring out how to fight me, too.
Ken Rideout
Yeah. That's when everybody figured stay away.
That's why you're also a world champion. So everyone is watching everything that you do.
Regis Prograis
Everybody. So that's So when he ran around, that's when everybody figured out how to fight me. Everybody just move. Don't stand in front of me cuz you know I'm a fighter. You know, people couldn't figure it out. But Zerilla was a The thing is he did that because he was a last minute replacement. I was supposed to fight I forgot the dude name. The dude actually I was supposed to fight. He actually became a world champion at 147. He's won a belt. Liam Power. I was supposed to fight Liam Power.
Just became a world champ. I swear to fight him, but he got hurt in camp and um then uh Zerilla was the last minute replacement
And he ran around literally he just stayed around the whole time for 12 rounds. He just ran ran around and ran cuz he was last minute. He just came beat him in decision. You got WBC belt. What's next?
Still got Deon Haney and I fought Deon and I fought Deon Haney.
Ken Rideout
That one as your friend. That one was hard to watch.
Regis Prograis
Yeah, he he he he beat me 12 nothing. just beat me. And that I mean I'm not gonna take nothing away from Devin. Um cuz Devin was good. I think like no matter what that night I would have lost no matter what. That night I would have lost to him no matter what. Like but because mentally I wasn't there.
Ken Rideout
What was going on? [snorts]
Regis Prograis
Uh
Ken Rideout
Cuz that's out of character for you cuz I know the guy I know is like ready to fight in the parking lot at the gym.
Regis Prograis
Yeah. I mean, yeah, just getting there was, you know, between a press conference getting in my head and stuff like that. Um, I did a whole camp in LA. The whole I mean, well, I did like a three-pole camp. First thought camp was too long. I did like a four month camp. Started off, of course, in Houston. Um, and then the fight kept getting pushed back, stuff like that. Then I went to LA, then went back and then went back to LA again. Just going back and forth, messing with girls, man.
Our house was like the camp house was just, you know, the camp house just not focused. That's the main thing. We just wasn't focused in there. Like it wasn't just me. I had my my sister in there, my my uh my coaches having girls there. It was just
Yeah, bro. That camp that how that camp was just I'm not going to say the worst camp because I I still train every day. I still train about two three times a day. I still did that. But you got to be focused. That's as a fighter. I tell all the young fighters, you have to be focused. And it's not just inside the gym. It's out. The matter of fact, the most important time to be focused is outside the gym, not inside the gym. And we wasn't like I train, man.
I had a girl waiting on me at the house. Yeah.
Or like right after I get to the house, usually I should be taking a nap. I got a girl there, you know, going out to eat, going to movies, doing stuff. And this is when for me, this one I knew I was going to lose. So this is a week before we left to go to San Francisco for the fight. I go I go to this girl house. So I made excuse for myself. So Sundays we don't train. Yeah. So Saturday night I went and I stayed up, man.
I stayed over there till about 7:00 in the morning. My coach Evans was tripping. He was throwing [ __ ] in the house. But I It was my fault. I was wrong, you know. But this why I know I was going to lose because I was over [snorts] there and my daughter called me. my middle daughter, Kisa, she called me and um she facetimed me and at first, of course, I'm not going to answer. I'm with the girl and stuff like that. And we was we, you know, we don't believe in the sex stuff.
We wasn't doing nothing but still being over there, right?
So, I'm over there till like I said about 7:00 in the morning. She called me and she crying and I'm like, "What's up? What happened?" She talk about her ear hurt and I'm in I'm in LA. What I'm going to do? She in Houston. I'm here in LA. And um [clears throat] then what I'mma do? What I'm going to say? like go tell your mama you know I can't her mama asleep but what I'm going to say get on her mama ask but look what I'm doing I can't say that you know cuz you know her mama's sleeping she crying for that but I'm with a whole you know I'm with a whole another woman right now so that's for me that's when I felt like that was a sign like
I probably got lose and this was a week before I went to San Francisco one week before
So yeah [snorts] man that was that that camp was like if I have if I have any like uh any advice for up andcoming fighters like you got to be serious like inside when camp's thought you got it got to be camp.
Ken Rideout
But that's a perfect example of like someone who's focused there. Like you said, when Red Dog's beating the [ __ ] out of you, you're like, I don't care. I'm keep coming. Keep coming.
Now all of a sudden, you're basically rich. You got all these things. You got distractions. All these girls like you, you know, like it's just everything's accessible. You can have everything that you want. And you're not like a drug and alcohol guy. So it's not like you're definitely a girl.
Regis Prograis
My problem wasn't drug alcohol. Our problem was the women for sure. We all got vice. Everybody Everybody in the world got some type of vice. We all got them. But mine was the It was Mine was the women that
Ken Rideout
I think Holyfield, didn't he have like seven kids? Seven different moms.
Regis Prograis
Yeah. Probably I think more than that. Seven different moms. Like nine or something. I don't you know, but yeah, mine was the my advice was it was Mine was the woman. Yeah.
Ken Rideout
All right. So, you get to the fight. How quickly into that fight do you realize like cuz I know when when I was watching it start, I'm like, "All right, Re is going to start picking it up here." And it just like seemed to get worse and I'm like how the [ __ ] how is he even staying in this fight? It was
Regis Prograis
Yeah. Well, we went to the corner and um the the ref was like, "Man, you going to show me something? What you going to do? You going to show me something?" And J was like,
Ken Rideout
"That's something you never want to hear, right?" Cuz now we know like not only am I losing, but this refs I'm going to get hurt,
Regis Prograis
Right, bro? And the thing is, bro, I don't want no disrespect to Deon, but Deon don't got no power. The thing is, if Deon had power, he'd have stopped me for sure. I didn't want to be there.
I couldn't [clears throat] wait till the fight was over. I'm bro I'm telling I could not wait till that fight was over. I did not want to be that I really wanted to quit but I'm I can't do that cuz I know if I would have quit the fight it'll look like terrible you know it it'll look real bad on me but I did not I did not want to be in that fight. I wanted to quit before the fight started. I knew like I didn't want to be here.
I'm in the dressing room warming up and I'm like I don't want to be here. Even even in um going into the fight before I'm calling my coaches man. I'm like man I'm nervous. I never been nervous before a fight. I'm like, man, well, the last fight, too. I'm like, man, I'm I'm nervous. What's this? What's that? I'm telling I told my dad, come up. I told my sisters. I told my wife come up. I told my trainers. I'm tell all them telling like, "Bro, I'm nervous about this." And they're like, "People trying to talk to me.
My head gone." Cuz I
Ken Rideout
What do you think was making you nervous that he was I mean, obviously he was a great fighter.
Regis Prograis
He was a just getting embarrassed. What happened? I think just getting embarrassed getting I didn't think I was gonna get stopped because I know Deon didn't really have no power but just getting embarrassed and kind of you know what happened you know I didn't I didn't want to be there like man I didn't I couldn't wait I'm talking about in the fight I couldn't wait I remember being like the third round like damn when it's going to be over
Ken Rideout
Oh man
Regis Prograis
I did not want to be in that fight
Ken Rideout
You think like were you thinking like this is it like boxing's over for me like I've never felt this
Regis Prograis
Think at the time no I didn't think at the time but I knew I'm not going to say I knew it was the end was coming But no, I I didn't think boxing was over, but that night was just it wasn't there
Just because too many things went on in camp. You got to have
A heavy fighter is a dangerous fighter. You got to be you got to be focused. You know, in camp we wasn't focused. You know, we had like a damn near like a party house, you know, like it was, you know, I would train every day, but you know, it's about, like I said, it's about what you do outside the gym, not just inside the gym. And we was in LA. I love LA, of course. I was in LA just doing all kind of stuff. and got distracted.
I had this girl got, you know, was with her like every literally every day. Like I got there on a Sunday night and we start training Monday. By Tuesday, she was at the house by Tuesday. She was there almost every day. Like probably every other every day, every other day. Something like if I'm not if she not there, we going out to eat. We doing something like that almost every, you know. So I'm still training, but I'm not there. I'm not focused, you know.
Ken Rideout
So what happened after the fight? What was the reaction and like what was
Regis Prograis
I just felt bad about I felt bad about myself. I knew like I I knew I wasn't focused. Um all my people was there too. Everybody all my all my friends and stuff they came and like they was crying and stuff and but my in the dressing room my dad was crying. My dad like super not emotional. He was crying and stuff like that cuz and he was crying cuz of happy tears like mad about the fight. happened because like after the fight though something crazy happened to her like everybody embraced me.
All my people was in the dress room. Everybody wanted to be around me. Usually after a fight like everybody leave you. You gone. You in the dress room by yourself sometime. I heard it from some people. All my people came. Everybody was all my people from New Orleans, everybody. We came. It was like nothing happened, you know. It was like I didn't lose and nothing like that, you know. So, and then after that, like I said, it's crazy cuz after losses, I felt like that night I felt bad, but I went back.
I went back. I always go back home. Go back to New Orleans. And I went back home and like everything was good. We had a big Christmas party cuz I fought December 9th. Yeah.
Christmas December 25th. So, I went back. I I rent a big Airbnb for everybody to be in there. And we just had a bunch of fun.
Ken Rideout
Was that the biggest payday to date?
Regis Prograis
No. Talk about pay. that. But that was a big payday fight.
It was a big It was a big payday. Yeah. It was
Ken Rideout
What happens after that fight?
Regis Prograis
So after I try to get back on the thing, I I had to give myself some time. Then after that, we fight.
Ken Rideout
Um Jack Catater, right? The Jack Catar fight.
Regis Prograis
Oh yeah.
Ken Rideout
Got to go back to UK.
Regis Prograis
With this fight,
I felt like he should never won that fight. I'm not going to lie. I felt like Jack should have never won that fight. I was real confident. Real show myself. Real confident. Everything was Everything was smooth in camp, too. I learned my lesson from the Deon Handy camp. So, I was like, "All right, I'm not doing that. I'm not I'm going to be I'mma be focused. I'm not going to be so distracted and stuff like that." So, we we did have a good camp in that fight.
Um, get into the fight. Yeah. I get into the fight and man, I'm outbox. Same thing. Outboxing Jack. I actually dropped him with a jab.
I get back to the corner. I think the sixth round or something like that. And my coach is like, "Man, I don't know what the score looking like." Everybody say I'm up though. Everybody say I'm up on the score calls. I dropped them and all that. I get back and um they're like the coach like, "Man, I don't know. You you might got to do something else. I don't know what the score goes looking like." I'm like, "All right." So, I get back out there. I step it up.
I start pressing him. That's what he wanted. He dropped me. Boom. After I got dropped, um I know we fell some type of way. We both fell. And I sprained my ankle. Then that was that was it after that. Once I sprained my ankle, I rolled my ankle. It was bad. And um I just I was just fighting after that. I couldn't really move or nothing like that. But and then another thing, but Jack was better than I thought.
I was like, Jack, bro, Jack, he was just awkward.
That's right.
He was real awkward, but he didn't.
Ken Rideout
And he's tough.
Regis Prograis
He's tough. Jack is tough. He's a champion, too, at 47. Um, but he's he is real tough and he's awkward and he's he's better than I thought. I'm like, bro, I'm looking at Jack. Oh, I'mma kill this boy. Like, I'm like, oh, I'mma kill Jack. I'mma kill him. But he's more awkward and he's he's better than what I thought. and [snorts] he, you know, he won he won that fight. So, um, then getting back into it, I never, I ain't gonna lie, I never wanted to go to UK.
I never like going to UK. I lost three times in UK like I hate the damn UK, you know, but I don't regret it cuz I got a lot of fans over there, you know. I always put up tough fights and stuff. I never by I never been stopped in my career, you know, put up tough fights, but like I just like, man, why I got to go to UK? I I do understand why because it was not I'm not going to say it was nothing else but same thing that that guy I told you about he put me in that position.
Ken Rideout
Oh the man the new manager
Regis Prograis
The new Yeah. But I So in camp acting manager I Well so what happened in camp? I told him look bro I can't you can't do this. You know I like I can't have you negotiate for me doing what you doing whatever you doing for me. I can't have you doing it. Cuz it was him and another one of my friends that was doing it. I said I can't do this. So, I hired Brian Peters, which was a real manager. I hired him in the middle of that, like probably
Maybe a month and a half before the fight, I hired him. And so, of course, the other the old dude, he didn't like it.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Regis Prograis
And that's when he started all this stuff.
Ken Rideout
Okay.
Regis Prograis
Yeah.
Ken Rideout
So, they didn't like that you were bringing in like a seasoned professional.
Did the other guy have any managerial experience?
Regis Prograis
He did with small guys. Small fight.
Ken Rideout
Not on your level. Not negotiating world title fights.
Regis Prograis
No. Close. He was the one put me in a position. I didn't have to do that. Why would I have to go to the UK, you know? I didn't have to do it.
Ken Rideout
Was it a title fight
Regis Prograis
For not a real title? Something. It was 12 rounds, but something like Jack had a WBO something. Not the real one. He didn't have the real one. So,
Ken Rideout
Yeah. You don't go to the UK for with your record and experience.
Regis Prograis
So, he put me in that position doing that. And it's like, man, I guess so. But it was Jack Cat. I'm like, bro, I don't care. It's Jack. I can beat Jack. You know, he was still better than I thought, but I was like, man, I could beat Jack. It should be an easy fight for me with Jack Catar, you know. And um yeah, and then after that I was supposed to fight this when I knew the end was near because I was supposed to fight Oscar Dearte.
Ken Rideout
I remember that
Regis Prograis
Two weeks before the fight I got hurt. I never been hurt in a fight. I I had to pull out a fight. I never had to pull out a fight in my life. Never had to I never got hurt in camp. I mean I got hurt, but never had to pull out a fight. I had to pull out the fight. I got hurt in in the camp and I had to pull out. So I was like, man, like damn, I don't like this. like to have to pull out a fight is like damn I never did this in my whole life.
I had to pull out.
And so then that happened. Um then I had to go back to the drawing board again. And but even in that camp, man, like I was like I was not sparring good. Even my friends like, "Bro, you good? You all right? Like what's going on? You good?" I'm like, "Yeah, I'm straight." You know, but I probably wasn't.
And um but yeah, I was I was going through I still was going stamping, going through all the personal stuff, too. I guess that's what kind of was going on with me. And then after that for then I fought Jojo and I came back here. I came back to um came back to Vegas for that for that game.
Ken Rideout
All right. And so you beat Jojo Diaz.
Regis Prograis
Beat Jojo then trying to figure out then we we trying to figure out what's going to happen. I don't know. I came back here. So or was this was supposed to happen. So I came back here. I I beat Jojo. I came back here really to be honest to run away from home to get away from because all the personal stuff was going on. So I had to get away from that. I came here to train
Ken Rideout
To Vegas
Regis Prograis
To I came back to Vegas to train, but I didn't have a fight yet. But then they was talking about me and Barbosa was going to fight, but I never got a contract, but I just stayed in the gym. I didn't get a contract to fight nobody. I just stayed in the gym. So they they offered me like Barbosa fight. Um well, they say they was going to offer they didn't I never got a contract. They said I was supposed to be Barbosza. And that even Barbosa hit me up on um Instagram.
He said, "What we going to do it? Come get ready." So that's I literally went over his word. He's like, "Yeah, start getting ready." So I'm like, "All right, I came to Vegas to start training." And um nothing never happened. Nobody never gave it. Kenny Sims, my one of my gym partners, end up getting a fight with Barbosa. But anyways, so then they offer they I think they offer like um Frank Martin too. Yeah.
But like on a three-week notice. I'm like, "No, I'm not doing that. Why would I f you know out here too in Vegas on three week notice?" And then the kind of been thing happened. Then kind of been happen. And I was like, "All right, I'm for boxing?
No, not Zufa. I mean, it was he signed with Zufa, but
I don't know. You know, he signed with the Zufa thing, but yeah.
Ken Rideout
Who was your promoter at the time?
Regis Prograis
Eddie.
Ken Rideout
Oh, okay. Oh, okay.
Regis Prograis
No, I think I was a free agent.
I think No, I was I'm tripping. I say Ed, I'm Oh, I messed up. It was Oscar Golden Boy cuz
Ken Rideout
Oh, really? They did one fight for you?
Regis Prograis
I had three fights with Oscar.
Ken Rideout
Okay.
Regis Prograis
I would have had one more, but I'm so Jojo Diaz. Jojo then this fight.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Regis Prograis
Yeah. This fight they wanted they they wanted to fight me and stuff like that. So then I was like all right let me let me go ahead and um
Ken Rideout
That was his first fight with Zufa. So like they they were fight and that was did Turkey have a hand in that
Regis Prograis
Was at the fight.
Ken Rideout
Okay. So that's a uh again we don't have to talk about your money but that's there's a lot of money at that.
Regis Prograis
It was a big fight.
It was Turkey. It was Netflix. It was a lot.
That's right. Netflix Netflix. It was a big Netflix deal. So then I did that and in that camp same thing I did not want this. I did not want to fight. That's why I wanted to I really wanted to retire and maybe do something else a a while ago but I was just like I'm in camp. They called me and I kind of get my mouth kind of get me in trouble cuz I I took it before I even thought about it. But
Ken Rideout
Looking back I'm glad I did. Like bro, I'm talking about this fight. I did not want a fight. That's when I remember talking to you when you were in uh the UK before that and tried to connect you with Shane Mcwigan and I remember talking to you thinking like all right it doesn't sound like the same guy but I'm like come on man
Regis Prograis
I didn't want to fight I didn't want
Ken Rideout
For this one
Regis Prograis
Now I didn't want you fight I and looking I could have beat him too
Still right now I I know I could have beat him
But I I almost had I didn't maybe I didn't want to
Ken Rideout
I I didn't want to box no more
Regis Prograis
I just I've been want to be done with it for a while I was just like I just
And and so in that camp Like one day I woke up. I remember vividly. It was a Thursday. I got up cuz usually I I in camp I I would get up first thing I would get I would meditate. I always meditate for 10 minutes. I get up a little early, meditate for 10 minutes. Then of course brush my teeth and all that type of stuff. Then I would go down, take my creatine, take all the I had to take all these vitamins every day, drink a gallon of water.
I was just like, man, I just don't want to do this no more. Like it's it feels so good now to live free. I don't have to, you know, I take creatine because I want to get big and stuff like that, but I don't have to like
Ken Rideout
It's not like a job anymore.
Regis Prograis
It's not a job no more. I don't have to. I train cuz I want to, not because I have to no more.
And I remember doing that and then I'm like going to the gym and it was a Thursday and I remember like in the gym I always start off 10 minutes jump rope and I remember jump roping and I did not every step cuz we jump rope like this. every step. I didn't want I did not want to be there to I wanted to be I did not want to be in that gym and Thursdays are hard days cuz we got drills and stuff like that. I remember the drills.
I remember I felt like that was my last day in a gym.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Regis Prograis
I was like and I had like three three weeks before the fight and I did not I was like man this is my last day. I told my I told my one of my um the dude that wrote my book he like my sister and I my other sister I told him like bro I told him every day I don't want to fight. I don't want to fight. Everybody talked me into it. Like they talked me Listen, it got so bad cuz the day the day of the fight, I didn't want to fight the I'm talking about the day of the fight.
It's a few hours before I got to go to arena. So what happened was one of my one of my one of my friends. He walked me over to my mama hotel in the UK. I walked over there. I was like, I'mma just, you know, we ate and stuff like that. Then walked over there. I go to my mama hotel. I'm me and her. I brought my son with me. My son playing on the game. I'm laying in the bed with her. I'm like, "Man, I don't want to fight." She like, "Wow." I'm like, "Bro, I don't want to get hurt, you know, cuz I I had a little injury, stuff like that in camp, you know.
I had a hand eye uh what my rib something with my bicep. I had some things going on, but really the most thing was my eye and my hand. That was cuz my like my last day of sparring, that same eye told you about earlier, I got hit in my eye. I couldn't see.
Ken Rideout
Oh my god.
Regis Prograis
My literally my last day of sparring out here in Vegas.
So, I got hit in my eye anyway. I couldn't see. It was blurry and stuff like that. And I'm thinking I was like, "M." So anyways, going back I went back to the room. My mom I'm laying in the bed with her. I'm like, "Mom, I don't want to fight." She like, "Why?" I'm like, "I don't want to get hurt. I don't want this. I'm making excuses and stuff like that." She like, "Boy, just go fight." Like we came all the way out here. You got to fight.
My mom not a Collin type of person. She not
A soft person. She like, "Fight. You got to fight."
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Regis Prograis
So I'm like, "Shit, all right." Still walking back,
My friend come give me to go to arena now. Walking back like, "Bro, I don't want to fight."
It got so bad. Look, I wanted to like I was thinking about falling out the van on Netflix. On Netflix. So people say, "Oh, he fell out the van.
Ken Rideout
He came lightning to strike the
Regis Prograis
I'm in a in a car on the way to arena fight night." I'm like, "Bro, I don't want to fight. I still don't want to fight." Yeah.
Ken Rideout
Right.
Regis Prograis
But then we get in the dress room. It's just like something clicked. Something turned on. I don't know what happened. Something clicked on me.
Ken Rideout
Well, you probably realize like you're [ __ ] going. You're about to get fight. You got to get your head right. I got to Yeah, it's it's nothing else. But even in the address when I got there, I still was thinking
Regis Prograis
I'mma slip or fall. I'mma hurt myself. I'm not going to fight. This is Bro, this is the fight going. I'm thinking I'm not going to fight.
Ken Rideout
I think anyone that's done anything competitive at a high level knows that feeling. And and by high level, I mean even if it's high level for you, like the stuff that I did in running isn't relevant to like Olympic and real world champions. I was like, you know, the tallest short guy. I was like doing age group stuff. But still, I remember moments like later in my career of feeling like expectations were high, like I don't want to do this. But like you said, like you you reached that point where you just something clicked and you're like, well, it doesn't matter what you want or what you don't want.
It's like it's like being drafted into the war. Like I don't want to go fight in a war I know nothing about, but then it's like here's your gun. And you're like, well, if I don't shoot this, I'm going to get shot. So if I don't let these hands go, I'm going to get hurt.
Regis Prograis
Right. Right. So yeah, I man, so I got in the dress room, still didn't want to fight, but then something just clicked in me like I I start put I put my shoes, I put my socks, I put everything on, I start warming, I start bouncing around. I couldn't sit still. I'm just bouncing b the almost the whole time. Usually you you know you want to sit still a little bit, but I'm bouncing around the whole time.
Ken Rideout
Like nervous energy.
Regis Prograis
Yeah. I put the gloves on, start hitting the pads a little bit. All right, it's it's feeling better. Then it's it's time to um it's time to glove up. All right, we now we going now I know I'm fighting. I got to fight for sure. It's time I'm glove up. I'm wrapped up really even before you glove when you wrap up you know cuz then when you wrap up his trainer my trainer got to go watch him train got to watch me wrap up. So I'm wrapping up
We watching the fights on the TV. It's like all right like we doing this.
Ken Rideout
To me that's the hardest part of the whole training camp. Not that I had a professional fight but being in the locker room and watching especially when you're the main event. It's torture. you. Well, unless you're like in your early days when you're like, I'm killing this guy. I can't wait. But when you're at the point you're at, that is the hardest two hours ever sitting and watching those fights, you see someone get knocked out, etc., etc., you're just like,
I'm coming and and when I get out there, there's not going to be an empty seat. So, so if there's an empty, you know, the early fights, half the place isn't full. Now, you walk out and the place is electric,
Regis Prograis
Right, man? So, yeah. But what happened was so I'm glad my I leaned on my son. My son had leaned on me. I leaned on my son. So he knew I told him look look at the struggle I was going through. Like I was this was the that camp was the worst struggle mentally the worst struggle I ever been through in my whole life. Right.
Ken Rideout
I could tell when I was talking to you.
Regis Prograis
I was struggling man. I was going through so much stuff. Mentally going through all the whole divorce thing. All that type of stuff. Going through all that type of stuff. So yeah. So, um, but in the dress room like I I told my son was there with me. I said, "Look, I I like right before we about to walk, I said, "Look, you know, I'm scared of this fight. I don't want to fight, right? I'm like, I'm nervous. I don't want to fight. I don't want to, but I'm doing it." You know, like you got to walk into that field.
Like, it's such great things on the other side of that field. We have to do that. Like, when you scared of something, do it. That's the thing. And so, I was really scared to fight, but I'm so glad I did it. If I didn't do that, I'll be I would regret that for the probably the rest of my life.
Ken Rideout
Would have haunted you until
Regis Prograis
It would I would have been fight I would have still been fighting trying to do something. I was trying to do everything, you know.
Ken Rideout
I hope people are hearing this like the sting of quitting will never leave you. You lost to Conor Ben. It sucks. But
Regis Prograis
I'm glad I I'm glad I did it. And I I mean the thing is like I said, they play this narrative like, "Oh, he's big strong guy. He's supposed to stop you and all that stuff." I was coming up, he was coming down. He's younger. All this stuff. And man, I even writing I think I could have beat him. Like even right I saw open I saw I saw opportunity. I saw opening that I could have did something. I just didn't do it. I was like I was like
You know you you ever I forgot the movie. I forgot the movie. It's like a a a motorcycle movie or something like that. And it's with um Lawrence Fsburn and the dude and they riding these bikes and I guess it's like the dad versus son, the the big dog versus and they they they they driving these bikes and they racing.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Regis Prograis
And it's the young guy versus the old guy. And they racing and the old guy know he can win but he let off on the throttle and he let him win.
That's kind of how I felt. I felt kind of like that. Like I saw it. I like I remember like jabbing them and they landed and I saw like all right, you know, cuz in southpaw you want to jab to your right. Yeah.
You always want you step you jab, you step to your right and I saw I could have did it and if I would have landed I probably I probably would have dropped him if I would land because he was off balance a little bit but I I saw it I like nah I ain't going to do it. I just saw I was like nah I ain't going to do it. I didn't I didn't
Ken Rideout
Well, it sounds like the decision is right then to get out of the sport because once you lose that killer instinct to like go for blood and you don't take it, it's like all right.
Regis Prograis
It's like not that it's I felt like I didn't want to do it but like even like I said getting back to the locker room like I told my son like you said I was nervous the whole time but I'm doing it right. This teach you like bro you got and this is right before the camera's on me right this right before they well the camera about to come in this they like they like one minute to walk. So I'm telling him like, "Look, you see I'm nervous.
I don't want to fight. I'm scared. But when you got to do it." And I said, "Look, if you nervous, cuz this was 70,000 people right in a stadium." I said, "If you nervous, you lean on me. If I'm nervous, I'm going lean on you."
But I walk. But
Ken Rideout
What did he say?
Regis Prograis
He just said, "All right." He's like, "All right, all right. All right."
But the thing is, we create these monsters in our head. That's right.
You know, we we create these big monsters in our head. I can I can still see it right now like how what I thought about um the crowd and stuff. I thought the because it's 70,000 that's the biggest that's a lot of people.
That's a lot of people. That's the biggest crowd 70 or 80,000 people on Netflix.
But when I walked out it wasn't that because the the 70 80,000 people they're not there.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Regis Prograis
I'm looking up. They way up there and the lights are on. You can't even see them.
You can't even see, man. I didn't see nobody. That's the thing. It was just like it was just me and him almost. I didn't see nobody even thinking back right now. I didn't see nobody in the
I didn't see I really even didn't even see the crowd, you know, but I was nervous. I was more nervous about like the crowd Netflix that type then kind of been. I wasn't really nervous about that. Was I was nervous about how big the stage was and I didn't want to get embarrassed and stuff like that, you know. But I'm but for me like I'm so glad I did it. Like I said, I did not that fight was the one I struggled with the most out of my whole career.
Ken Rideout
I didn't want to fight. But that's what I love about you is your honesty and integrity to like acknowledge these things that some fighters would never acknowledge that. They would never say I see you know
But I think it's a good lesson for the younger kids to hear like you could be a killer all through your whole career and Tyson has spoken about this too and like as you get older you start to get comfortable with the reality where as a kid you put up this false bravado. You're like I'm never scared. I'm never doing this. But but as we get older and more mature, you realize like it doesn't do anyone any favors to not be honest with my feelings. And if someone can learn from this, say like I tell my kids this all the time, are you scared?
Like my one of my sons in particular will say like, "Yeah, I'm scared."
And I would always tell them like just what you told your son, you have to get used to in life, this for everyone, do it scared.
Everyone is scared. The other fighters, I guarantee Conor Ben had nerves too. He probably more nervous than me cuz he got the big stage on him,
Right? But the point is, who's going to do it scared? If you didn't do that fight, we'd be having a different conversation right now.
Regis Prograis
I be trying to fight. I'll be trying to If I didn't fight that fight, I'll be trying to do everything. I be trying to do MMA right now, better knuckle boxing. I'll be trying to do everything right now. But I'm And I'm still might do something, but just because I want to play around, not because it's serious or like just because I might just do it. But
Ken Rideout
Everybody already knows who you are.
Regis Prograis
Right. I don't need to prove myself. That's right.
Right. I don't need to prove it. But yeah, I was that's what that's one thing I feel like man two things I realized about that fight was
You have to if you scared of something do it run towards it you know go towards that you know if you in a if you're in a tunnel and it's dark and you they they got the light that's the out go towards that darkness it might be the best thing towards the darkness I'm so glad that I went towards it
And the second thing is we create these monsters in our head and it's not there the monsters every what you imagine your head is way worse always way way worse than what's the actual reality we just create mind in our head you know that's what that's that that's something I did learn about it so for me I'm just like glad that
I'm so glad I got that through and like I'm that's why I feel so at peace right now like I'm so peaceful right now I'm out here in Vegas and I'm I'm like good my kids out here I'm good like you said I'm going through all kind of stuff personally but it don't even bother me like that stuff is like I'm feel like I feel
Ken Rideout
peaceful Well, that's why I called my book Everything You Wants on the Other Side of Hard.
It is.
If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. It wouldn't be novel to be a world champion fighter because anyone can do that.
Regis Prograis
Right. Right.
Ken Rideout
Right. But now you get to the point where you not only have to be good
Physically and athletically, but you have to be able to control those emotions that everyone has. Everybody gets scared of different things.
So, after that fight, what was the reaction after the fight?
[sighs and gasps]
Um, and did everybody surprise you?
Regis Prograis
Everybody, yeah, everybody surprised everybody like, man, like I got so much love. Like after knowing I retired and stuff like I got so much love. People was like, man, you're a warrior. People tell me don't don't quit. You should still fight.
Um, everybody was like kind of proud of me and stuff like that. Even everybody was like so proud and stuff like they thought I was going to get knocked out and all type of stuff. And I just like
I felt good. Like I felt just real good about that. Like even the drive back to the um to the room, my mom, all my friends, we in the we in the um mans and just talking just felt like a a weight lifted off, you know.
Ken Rideout
You must have felt good that like, hey, I didn't get embarrassed. I lost. But
Regis Prograis
Right,
Ken Rideout
You you put up a good showing. You're older fighter. You did everything. You didn't start till you're 17. It's not common. Not at this weight class. It's not common to be good like heavier heavyweights. Yeah. Okay. It's the the talent pool isn't deep there necessarily. 140 anywhere from like those those lighter weights all the way up to like cruiser like those guys have deep deep amateur pedigree
They only have been ever's done one thing his whole life fight [snorts] like you with the with the childhood the Katrina the move and the this so to accomplish all the things you've accomplished like I know you know it but it's just incredibly impressive and I think more important than your career is the person that you are like I I I've known you a long time. Like I think you're a world class person. You're a great dad and you're an awesome friend. I know. Look, there's some friends you have, they have big profiles, you text, they might text back a day later.
I know that when I call you, if I ever called you for anything, I know Reg is going to answer. I don't take advantage of my friends or ever. But but I know if I needed something, I know I call Regis.
Hey, someone wants to fight me. I'll be right over. You know what I mean? There's other friends, you know, that they're your friends, but you call them and say, "Someone wants to fight they're going to go hide under their bed. They're not going to help. You know what I mean?
So, for what it's worth, like I think that you're a better person than you are a fighter. You're a good man. And um I'm excited. What's next?
Cuz I'm excited to see what's next for you
Regis Prograis
Right now. So, um like right now, just being out here like like I was saying earlier, I wanted to get in some business stuff. Um I want to do like the recovery business, the recovery center thing I was talking about. Of course, like you know, I'm going to do a I got a podcast already coming out. have a book already. Working on part two. Um, most likely doing some movie stuff. Probably work on a cartoon. I've been
Ken Rideout
Car service.
Regis Prograis
I forgot about that.
Ken Rideout
Come on.
Regis Prograis
I forgot about I do have a car service. I forgot all about I have one. I have a car service in Vegas. Black truck service in Vegas. And um, actually a big celebrity just was in I won't say the name, but a big celebrity was just in uh
A few days ago. Real big real real big celebrity was in my truck um a few days ago. So we have that. I have it in um Houston too. I do um luxury car rentals out there. Do real estate.
Ken Rideout
So the one in Houston, you have a fleet of rental like exotic rental cars.
Regis Prograis
Exotic rental cars. What kind of car?
Uh well the we have that. So I'm with a I'm partner with a um a company everything Lamborghinis. Uh Black Label.
Ken Rideout
Black Label in Houston is an exotic car rental business that you have with a
Regis Prograis
Project. So we have exotics. anything you want. Literally, I don't even name all the cars. Anything you want, we have that. And I have here I have um black truck service also in Las Vegas. So, that's some things I'm doing. I be I forget about that stuff. Yeah, I am doing that type of stuff, too. Um
Ken Rideout
We have a business manager. Keep an eye on.
Regis Prograis
Yeah, I be having so much stuff going. I'll be forgetting about that stuff. So, yeah. But right now, like like I just want to like keep training like you say, I'm a little bigger, lifting weights and stuff like that and like be with my kids right now in Vegas. They probably going back in about 3 weeks. So just, you know, just trying to spin my
Ken Rideout
Kids are here for the summer.
Regis Prograis
My kids here for the summer. My kids are here for the summer. You
Ken Rideout
Got them all?
Regis Prograis
I got them all.
Ken Rideout
How many you got now?
Regis Prograis
Three.
Ken Rideout
Three kids.
Regis Prograis
Three kids. Yeah. I got my my my son is in jiu-jitsu and my daughter my middle daughter is in gymnastics.
Ken Rideout
Okay. The little How old are they?
Regis Prograis
12 9 and five.
Ken Rideout
All right. You're in you're in the thick of it.
Regis Prograis
Yeah. Right.
Ken Rideout
I will tell you one thing. Those kids will get older so fast. Like my daughter Tensei just got her driver's license.
Regis Prograis
Really?
Yeah. I got her.
That's crazy. I remember she was a little baby, a little girl. Damn, for real.
Ken Rideout
Do you know how many You know, you you remember like they were convinced that you were like a real rugaroo?
Regis Prograis
I remember. Yeah.
Ken Rideout
They were convinced cuz my my youngest who was probably five at the time, he's now 11. He was convinced. He would be like, "I don't understand that. When does he turn into the wugaroo?" I said, "Only when he fights?" Cuz Regis used to wear the mask into the ring of a rugaroo, which is it's like a fictional werewolf.
Regis Prograis
Yeah, like a like a Yeah, a werewolf in a
Ken Rideout
Louisiana like a little kids little kid story in Louisiana that they tell the children.
Regis Prograis
Basically like the boogeyman.
Ken Rideout
Yeah, like a boogeyman. Exactly. So the rugaroo was like a werewolf character that would come and get you when you were a kid.
You know, don't go. The rugaroo is sleeping under your bed tonight. Be careful.
My son was so scared of that. Poor the poor kid cuz the rest of the kids would tease him so much. So when they were But the older one, Tensei, should be like, "Dad, why doesn't he bring the Rougarou mask over here when he comes?" I said he even when she was older, I go cuz he it's not a mask. That's him.
He turns into the Ruguru. It says, "Why doesn't he still have the mask once the fight starts?" I said, "That's part of the Rugaroo's like lore. You can't have that face on for the fight. He knows the rules."
They loved it, man. It was to me that's still one of the greatest uh ring nicknames watching that you come in with that mask on and then little Ray, your son had the little mask on. The kids and my kids loved it cuz they be like, "Wait a minute, there's a little rugaroo."
Regis Prograis
A little too. A little rug. Yeah. He loved it, man. It's I I love that because, you know, one when he go when he gets older, he going to just really appreciate that.
Ken Rideout
Oh, for sure,
Regis Prograis
Man. It's crazy. Like Like that's one of my most proudest things cuz my son is like
Like look up to me like crazy. Like he be posting stuff online. I don't be seeing it, but people be sending me like he be like, "Oh, I want to make my dad proud." And stuff like that. posting stuff post cuz I got a bunch of pictures with with me and him in a you know in a in a in a in a locker room together dress room you know like him just with me and you know even from like little to big now he just be with me so like that's cool he actually might want to fight one day maybe
Ken Rideout
That's the part though that I get nervous about just having and obviously I didn't have an an ounce of the success that you had but just having some success and recognition [gasps] it subliminally puts a lot of pressure on the kids and that's one thing You should I mean I'm sure you are aware of like you don't want him to spend his whole life trying to like live up to your expectations athletically. You want him to know that like at least for me what I tell my kids is like look you can't control talent.
You can control effort though. You can be the hardest worker. And as long as you go out and try your hardest that to me is the win, right?
Cuz you're going to get as long as you get the most out of yourself. How how can a dad be angry if you go out there and you do the best you can but you're never a world champion? Well, guess what? about the world champion. There's only one at every single thing, right?
Some only one can be the best in the world. And and you know, to do that takes effort. The guy who tries the hardest and has the most talent is going to be that guy. Like we can't control the talent.
Hopefully, you find that perfect storm. But that's what I emphasize religiously to the kids. It's like, did you do your best? Did you honestly did you do your best? I don't think you did your best. They're like, I could have done more. I was like, all right. You know,
Regis Prograis
Right, right, right. Yeah.
Ken Rideout
Did they feel that pressure even if I'm not there? You know what I mean?
Regis Prograis
Yeah. Well, that's and that's why I never wanted to name my son after me. I don't want him to I don't want him to be like you don't got to be like me. I'm me and you be you. And that's it. You know, you do something else, you might be better than me, you know. So, you might do something, you know, even you don't have to be an athlete. You don't have to do that stuff. I He still don't want to fight a little bit now.
So, maybe he might want to do it, but you don't have to.
Ken Rideout
Well, the nice thing is, you know, the business so he won't go through the [ __ ] that you had to go through.
Regis Prograis
I think he might want to do MMA.
Ken Rideout
Even better.
Regis Prograis
Yeah, I know. Cuz he's starting to kick me. He's starting to test me a little bit.
Not test me. He's starting to want to play with me stuff. He want to come behind me, grab my neck. I got keep my Every time he around, I got to keep my chin down. He want to like try to choke me. I got to protect my neck. Yeah, exactly. He want to do that all the time. And he start to kick me and stuff. I'm like, "Come on, bro.
All right, let's do it."
Ken Rideout
You still got the house in Texas with the ring and everything?
Regis Prograis
Yeah.
Ken Rideout
Still,
That's a nice compound you had there with the basketball court, the pool, the whole Yeah. Yeah. The one thing that you had that I love for the listeners is the um the old tire heavy bag. Just a bunch of tires stacked up, glued together or tied together, hanging like a heavy bag. And the other thing I like is you always hit the heavy bag with bag gloves. Never like I I need my hands protected. You have these like old school like 1960 like little tiny uh mittens.
Regis Prograis
It looks like
That's what Yeah, that's what they'll make your hands real. You
Still got the tire heavy bag. I still got Yeah, I still got all that stuff. I still hit it. I still
Ken Rideout
Funny to see that tire heavy bag hanging up in a house in uh in LA in Hollywood or whatever fancy neighborhood you were living in. Gated a gated community with a freaking tire heavy bag.
Regis Prograis
Yeah,
Ken Rideout
That was great. Well, dude, I appreciate you doing this. I think you're the best. You're an awesome friend and uh thank you. I really appreciate uh the man that you've become. You're just a
Allaround good dude.
Yeah. Thank you. There you go. Regis Ruguru Prograis.
Key takeaways
- Regis started boxing late and used a steady run of amateur fights to catch up.
- Early professional fighters may have to sell tickets and pay opponents just to build a record.
- Injuries and management decisions can change a career as much as results in the ring.
- Regis says fighting Conor Benn while afraid helped him leave boxing with peace.
- He wants his children to pursue their own interests without carrying his expectations.
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