Episode · Oct 30, 2026 · 1 hr 37 min
Lost an Arm and a Leg at 24. Men’s Health Cover at 33.
with Noah Galloway
Noah Galloway is an Army veteran and double amputee who competed on Dancing with the Stars.
“But I'm prepared to continue washing them so I never experience viewing the world that way again.”
Summary
Noah Galloway grew up in Birmingham, left school at 16 and enlisted after September 11. He joined the 101st Airborne and deployed to Iraq in 2003. During a second deployment, he turned down Special Forces selection because he did not want to leave his platoon. A tripwire detonated under the lead Humvee he was driving, sending it into a canal. He woke at Walter Reed on Christmas night, missing his left arm and leg and facing additional injuries. After seven months, he left the hospital and returned to Alabama.
He describes pulling away from other wounded soldiers, drinking with his platoon and later returning to a 24-hour gym to learn how to work out again. Obstacle races brought attention that led to the Men’s Health cover, an appearance on Ellen and a third-place finish on Dancing with the Stars. He and Ken also discuss anger, relationships, therapy and Galloway’s experiences with psychedelics. Galloway says he is now more open about grief and is developing Unmasked Warrior, a veteran storytelling program focused on mental health.
Show notes
Noah Galloway was a sergeant with the 101st Airborne, driving the lead Humvee through the Triangle of Death on the night of December 19, 2005. Two weeks earlier his colonel had offered him a slot at Special Forces selection. He said no. He was not leaving his guys for a school.
He never saw the tripwire. The blast threw a 9,000 pound armored Humvee into a canal and he sat in chest deep water bleeding until they got him out. He woke up at Walter Reed on Christmas night and his mom told him. Left arm gone above the elbow. Left leg gone above the knee. Jaw wired shut. His wife left while he was still in the hospital.
What came next was not the comeback story. He walked out of Walter Reed after seven months, bought a house in Alabama without telling his chain of command, and spent two years drinking with his platoon every weekend. A second marriage fell apart. Then he joined a 24 hour gym and taught himself to work out again. That turned into Tough Mudders, a 58 hour Death Race, the cover of Men’s Health, Ellen, and third place on Dancing With the Stars.
This week I sat down with Noah, who drove up from Birmingham, to talk about the invasion of Iraq, the night he got hit, and the part that never makes the highlights. Forty years of anger. The therapy, psilocybin, ayahuasca and ibogaine that finally got underneath it. Why he says he spent most of his life looking at the world through dirty lenses.
He is married to Amanda now with four kids, including a son in basic training at Fort Benning and a three year old whose middle name is for Quinn, a young man he sat with through chemo. He speaks all over the country and is building a veterans storytelling show called Unmasked Warrior. One of the most honest conversations we have had. Hope you guys enjoy this one.
Follow Noah: @noahgallowayathlete
His book: Living with No Excuses
Transcript
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Ken Rideout
All right, today's guest, the great Noah Galloway, double amputee, army vet, Dancing with the Stars alum. This guy's done everything, multiple TV shows, and incredibly handsome, the great Noah Galloway. Welcome to the show.
Noah Galloway
Thank you, Ken.
Ken Rideout
When you came in here walking, I was like, "Damn, he's moving fast for a guy with one leg." Thanks for coming, brother.
Noah Galloway
Thanks for having me.
Ken Rideout
What uh Did you grow up in Birmingham?
Noah Galloway
I did. I grew up in Birmingham. That's We lived all over when I was really small, but then around the time I started school, just by chance, uh we lived in the same place for the majority of from like 6 years old till I was about 20. My parents had moved away, but I stayed in the area until I joined the military.
Ken Rideout
What were you into as a kid and in high school? Did you play any sports?
Noah Galloway
I did, and I got into fitness uh in middle school. For me, it was an escape from my family life, and so that just became my obsession was fitness, but I never got into playing sports. But mainly because I wasn't a good student.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
And you know, they want If you want to play sports in school, you got to have You got to show up to class. And I wasn't good enough to be one of those people that they'd let that slide, so I just didn't play sports.
Ken Rideout
That's a loss for the coaches because like looking at some of the things you've done even since you lost your arm and leg, I'm like, "Damn, this guy's super athletic." And you kicked ass on Dancing with the Stars. We'll get into all that, but
Noah Galloway
Well, you know, I would say that back then I didn't know how to play as a be a team player.
Ken Rideout
I got you.
Noah Galloway
You know, that's something that I developed later on in life. Which I I would have benefited or learning it earlier, but I didn't.
Ken Rideout
What was your home life like that you wanted to escape through fitness?
Noah Galloway
Uh you know, I mean, this isn't a knock at my family. I mean, I love my parents. They were whatever, you know, things they were dealt with in life is what they were dealt with, but you know, my father is uh an alcoholic, you know, a narcissist, my mom's an enabler, and it kind of just left me and my three sisters to fend for ourselves, which put us in different places and in situations that I wouldn't have I couldn't imagine my children being in. So, you know, but you work through that.
It you know, you develop things from that as you mature as an adult, and you once you start learning what those traumas were and you respond to them and then you learn how to better respond to them. Feel like I'm a better person because of it. I'm grateful for the things I learned, but now I've adjusted as the way I am as a parent, a man, so.
Ken Rideout
Yeah. So, when you Did you graduate high school?
Noah Galloway
I didn't. No. I I never enjoyed school. I hated school, and um as soon as I started ninth grade, uh I just wouldn't go to class. And then I had just turned 16, and one morning my mom, before she went to work, came in my room and said, "You're either going to school and you're passing, or you're dropping out. And if you drop out, you go to work. You don't live in this house anymore." And I I'm pretty sure my parents, now being an adult and having older children, I'm sure there was a long conversation, "How do we do this?" Um and then she left, and I sat there and thought, "Well, I'll never pass.
I didn't I haven't gone to class in weeks." So, I dropped out, and as soon as I dropped out, you know, I'd worked every summer. I actually was happy with it. I went straight to work, was able to live on my own, and
Ken Rideout
What were you doing?
Noah Galloway
I started off doing landscaping first. I did landscaping for a while. I had done a lot of construction over the summers leading up to that, so then I did landscaping, and then when I turned 18, I started working in a plant just north of Birmingham, and did that uh for about 2 years, and then took my GED. Someone advised me into getting my GED. I took the test, scored well on it. They convinced me to go into college. I you know, I was about to say enlisted.
I enrolled at the UAB, and my first semester was in 2001. So, on September 11th, after witnessing that on the news, I just never went back to class. And I have an uncle I'm real close to that served with the 173rd in Vietnam, and he always told me if I went in the military to go airborne infantry, so I'd be right up front. And that's what I did, end up the 101st, and was in the invasion of Iraq in 2003. And
Ken Rideout
So, when you're working at the plant in Alabama, are you thinking like, "What the hell? Like, this is Oh, I love it."
Noah Galloway
Oh, you did?
Oh my god. Look, that's you know, looking back at my life, I am so grateful that things didn't go the way I thought they should go.
I'd say. Cuz I'll tell you and what I'm about to say, no offense to anyone else.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
Uh everyone has their goals in life and what they're going to do. But, I worked night shift in this plant. And there was a gentleman that I really liked and looked up to who was the night shift manager. And here it was, I was a young man, and this is a an adult with a family and children. And he got to where I'd I'd have dinner with them. You know, they become really good friends of mine. And I really respected this person. And I'd go to their single wide trailer and have dinner with them.
He had a pickup truck that ran sometimes. And I remember thinking, "I want what this man has. This this this life, this family." You know what I mean? It just all seemed comfortable, which it did.
You know what I mean? Like, the happiness, the love, those things.
But, I wasn't looking at the struggles that come with his life. Uh cuz I did I was like, "This is what I want." And now, fast forward 20-plus years, and I still, you know, I I've achieved now that that loving family
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
That he has, but I don't have the the stresses that would have come with, you know, the struggles in life
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
That I know he dealt with.
Ken Rideout
What was the plant making?
Noah Galloway
Uh refractories. So, um if you ever saw if you ever went by a plant that has the big stacks and the flame is coming out of the top, well, that concrete that lines that is a refractory.
Ken Rideout
Okay.
Noah Galloway
Uh, or if someone if a company is making brake pads and they're pairing, you know, pouring liquid, you know, metal into something to form the brake caliper, that form needs to be poured into a refractory. So, it's a it's like a fire brick. So, we would make that.
Ken Rideout
Oh my god. Not the sexiest thing in the
Noah Galloway
No, no, I'll tell you what, I learned more about different sized rock and sand than I ever wanted to know. Uh, you know, and then you'd be covered in just dust and you know, I'd stop at a gas station and someone might say, "I didn't know there was a coal mine around here." You know, cuz that's what I looked like. I looked like a coal miner and then I worked, you know, night shift, so I never saw the sun.
Ken Rideout
And they're wearing a respirator?
Noah Galloway
Oh, we were supposed to. Of course, I'm a kid. I didn't, you know, I'm thinking, you know how it is when you think it, I remember doing roofing as a as a teenager and not wearing gloves when we were tearing roofing off cuz I wanted tough hands. You know, when you're a kid, you're not thinking longevity.
Ken Rideout
Oh my god. It's crazy. Okay, so you enlist and you go right into the army enlisted. What was that like? How did you like the basic training? Were you like, if you liked roofing and working in a damp brick factory, you must have been like, "I'm in heaven."
Noah Galloway
Well, I'll tell you. So, I have a son right now that will be 19 next month. He is at Fort Benning, Georgia in basic training right now and they just finished that first 3 weeks. It's always the hardest, that red phase, and now they're in white phase and he finally got to call me yesterday.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
And I had told him before he went to basic, you know, he was a little nervous but not really showing it, but I said, "Buddy, I said, look, I'm going to tell you something. You're going to enjoy basic training." I said, "But don't be telling people because they won't be enjoying it and that might make them a little upset." Cuz he's just like me.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
And when he called yesterday, I said, "How are you doing?" He says, "Man, I'm loving it." He's like, "You know, the physical side's easy and I'm enjoying it." He says it can the mental side sitting around waiting, you know, that hurry up and wait.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
Um but I was not surprised because that's how I was.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
Uh I I enjoyed it. I remember being in basic training and dreading it ending because once you get into the system, you know how it works, you just roll with it. I was the I remember being deployed to Iraq
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
And guys getting upset with me because I wasn't as miserable as
Ken Rideout
That's funny. So you get out of basic training, but I can I can understand being nervous in basic training. Just you're nervous about the unknown, people screaming at you and all that silly [ __ ]
Noah Galloway
Mean, I was the same way going into it. It's It's once you settle in, you're like, "Okay, I can handle this." Yeah, the beginning I mean, I think that's for most when I talk to other parents who would love to see their kids go into the military if they're you know, not sure what they're going to do or the kid doesn't know or they are intrigued by it. I've told them all. I said, "You know, it's the fear of going in." You know, you feel like you're signing this contract, you're giving them your life, but you know, I'll be honest I tell people all the time, "Military's actually a pretty easy job."
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
You know, cuz in civilian life, you have a lot of decisions to make. As in the military, you kind of know what's going on. You know, once you're in for me and then everybody thinks of basic training. It's not like that day-to-day. You don't have someone just yelling at you all the time. Uh so I think that initial phase, yeah, it can be nerve-racking, but once you get in, it's like, "Oh, this isn't even hard."
Ken Rideout
Yeah. Were people washing out of basic training?
Noah Galloway
No, so I was there so it was right after 9/11 happened and there was this mad rush of people going in.
Ken Rideout
Wanted to like get in the fight.
Noah Galloway
Yeah. But what was interesting was I met a lot of guys who Here it was, it was 2001 and we're going in the infantry and a lot of guys were like, "Oh, we'll never see combat. It's all play
Ken Rideout
That's what I would be thinking too.
Noah Galloway
And so I think there was a lot of people that weren't expecting to be in the fight.
Ken Rideout
Like you.
Noah Galloway
Yeah, and there and there was guys like me that was like, "Yeah, put me right up front." You know, not you know, just
But not expecting to be in a fight like Oh, [ __ ] thought Yeah. And I'd mentally accepted that. And the hardest thing I dealt with was waking up in a hospital in the in-between. You know, I I I wasn't staying in the military and I wasn't dead, but I was severely injured. So, what am I going to do? And I struggled with that I I struggled with that for a long time before I realized how much I was struggling with it.
Ken Rideout
So, after you get out of basic training, where do you go from there? The fight's on in in in overseas. Like Yeah, not No yet, but it's coming. Like we're getting we're we're gearing up.
Noah Galloway
Went through basic, went through jump school, and then went to
Ken Rideout
Jump school like?
Noah Galloway
Oh, I mean, I loved it. Uh you know, I remember So, any one that hasn't been through jump school, I think the hardest part of jump school is just you're constantly running. You get up every morning, you run in formation out to where you do PT, and then you run on a track, you run back, you have breakfast, you change, you run in formation out to where you train, you run back for lunch, you run out. So, you're just constantly running. It's not at a fast pace, but you're just constantly running.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
And then, in the mornings for PT, you would run in a formation that if you couldn't reach out and touch the person in front of you, you're a fallout, and that was it. And I remember we're running, and I just got in my head, and I was like, I don't want to do this anymore. What am I doing? You know, just one of those thoughts.
Ken Rideout
Like high school.
Noah Galloway
Yeah, yeah. And you're like, "I'm done." And you know, this was back when you know, the infantry there was no females, so I just spent weeks uh a couple of months, you know, I'm a young teenage boy, you know, 20 21 you know, I think I was like 19 or 20. And no females within here I am on this run and I'm thinking I don't even care, you know, I'm just ready to be done. And then this female black hat runs up the middle of the formation and I smelled like her deodorant or perfume.
I was like I can do this. And that was it. Then I was good and then got my orders to go to Fort Campbell, Kentucky and serve with the 101st.
Ken Rideout
So when you arrive at the 101st like what happens? You you you do get linked up they assign you to what a troop, a platoon?
Noah Galloway
To a company. So I you know, you your brigade, battalion, and your company and I get to my company and I met my platoon sergeant that I had at the time and he's going through his blah blah blah, you know, this and that. It was me and like two other new privates.
Ken Rideout
Okay.
Noah Galloway
And of course I had just went through jump school so I had my airborne wings. And then he asked if we had any questions. I was like when do we jump? He's like oh we don't jump anymore. You'll have to go to air assault school. So I was like what? I went through jump school, did all that. And so then I went to air assault school. And now, you know, looking back if, you know, when you're airborne qualified in the military, it's it's not realistic. When a C-130 flies over everyone bolts out and it's static line and as soon as you jump that parachute opens up.
And it's like you know, low, you know, you're low to the ground but you're a sitting duck up there.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
So it's not realistic. You know, air assault school, you know, repelling out of helicopters, all that is awesome. But at first I was like man I can't believe I'll always be known as a five jump chump because I did five jumps at jump school never again. But those parachutes aren't like the ones you see when people jump into a football game and they land softly on the ground. Yeah. You can't control it. In fact, you're taught how to how to land and fall gracefully. And so you hear of a lot of guys who jumped every month and they have injuries, severe back injuries, things like that.
So, I'm actually grateful that I never had to jump again. So, I wasn't I hadn't have a problem with that. But yeah, once I got there and started training and working with everybody, that's when I really fell in love with the military. At first, I was just there because I wanted to go to war. But once I got in, I enjoyed wearing the uniform. I enjoyed working with the guys I was with and that's when I kind of fell in love with the military. I was deep embedded in it when I was like, "Oh, this isn't bad."
Ken Rideout
When you got when you when you told like when he said, "Oh, you have to go to Air Assault School." How easy is it to like then apply say like, "Okay, screw this then. Where do I sign up for air like
Noah Galloway
It's all about when things open up and there was a good year before or more before I went to Air Assault School. You have to wait for a slot to open. Then depending on where you fall in the ranking system, if someone else is going before you. So, it took a little while for me it to open up for me to go and then I I went and did that.
Ken Rideout
What did you do during the year while you were waiting to go to Air Assault
Noah Galloway
Oh, just constant training.
Ken Rideout
But you hadn't not going overseas yet.
Noah Galloway
No, not yet.
Ken Rideout
And so you're just like training in Kentucky and like waiting. And and you know that you're on the waiting list?
Noah Galloway
Yes, I'm on the waiting list for that. I had also done the physical and uh the PT test and everything. I wanted to go Special Forces. So, then I'm also waiting for what's called selection to come forward.
Ken Rideout
Uh and that's Rangers or Green Berets?
Noah Galloway
Green Berets.
Ken Rideout
Okay.
Noah Galloway
Yeah. Where I messed up and I've I've had this conversation with my son Jack who's in basic training now. I'm like, "Look, if Ranger School comes up, go immediately. Do not hesitate." Where I messed up was I let my um I had a platoon sergeant that actually I'm going to his retirement next month. 36 years, sergeant major over Fifth Corps which is I basically everything from Fort Knox to Belgium. Um this guy is amazing, incredible leader. I am so grateful to have him as someone that I can say I've served under and I'm friends with.
Ken Rideout
What's the top enlisted p- position, right?
Noah Galloway
Uh yeah, well, the top enlisted be Sergeant Major of the Army.
Ken Rideout
Okay.
Noah Galloway
Yeah. So, I mean, he's right there.
Ken Rideout
Major is like very senior enlisted person.
Noah Galloway
So, and he has earned every bit of where he's at. Well, he had told me when he was my platoon sergeant one time, he goes, "Galloway, go to Ranger School. I was a Ranger instructor. It's just a suck fest. You enjoy that stuff, so it'll be easy for you. And every Ranger instructor has a favorite, and you'll be that guy. So, you won't even have to work as hard." Well, that was a turn off to me. So, I was like, "Ah, well, I don't want to go to Ranger School."
Ken Rideout
Between Ranger and Green Beret?
Noah Galloway
Oh, so Ranger School, I mean, I don't want to mess this up and somebody from a Ranger battalion get mad.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
Um, but I will say this, Ranger School is a great leadership school.
Ken Rideout
Yep.
Noah Galloway
You learn a lot about leadership. That's why I've told my son, I was like, "If it comes up, go." And you get that Ranger tab, and you know, in the Rangers, you know, you have people who are in other groups that have the Ranger tab, then you have Ranger battalions.
Ken Rideout
Yep.
Noah Galloway
You know what I mean? And that's a special operations group. So, they're amazing. They're awesome. Uh, your special forces historically have been your teachers. Like, they're the ones who go to these third world countries, and not only, you know, can can fight, but then they train them how to take care of themselves.
Ken Rideout
The locals.
Noah Galloway
Yes. And looking back now looking back, I know I would have fit into that perfectly.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
Like, you know, I come from a family of military and educators. So, why not more merge the two?
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
You know? Um, but I really wanted to do that, and so I was more focused on it than I was Ranger School.
Ken Rideout
Okay. Okay. So, and what can And you So, you're waiting for either a special forces or air assault?
Noah Galloway
No, I ended up going air assault school. So, yeah, that came up, knocked it out, no problem.
Ken Rideout
Uh,
And air assault school is is repelling more than you parachuting?
Noah Galloway
It's all repelling.
Ken Rideout
Did you see the poor guy that fell on the turn style? It's [ __ ] sad.
Noah Galloway
Yeah, I heard about
Ken Rideout
He plummeted.
Noah Galloway
Did he?
Ken Rideout
It was
Oh, it was hard to watch. I mean, imagine he's coming from the top of a stadium, and he plummeted right down to the rope, and landed on the ground and everyone was like what the heck is was that supposed to
Noah Galloway
To happen? Yeah.
Ken Rideout
And he died.
Noah Galloway
Yeah. I saw the I saw the um the headline for it and I just thought, man, that's tough.
Ken Rideout
When you were rappelling this see up I mean obviously it's crazy dangerous. What was it like for you when you first times you were the first few times?
Noah Galloway
I mean I I enjoyed it. I Since then I've In fact, even after I've been injured, I've done some events. There's a group that's uh nationally and people hire them to come to do fundraisers. And I forget uh over the top or something like that where they do a fundraiser of people pay and they'll choose a tall building in the city and you get a chance to rappel down it. And I've always enjoyed going to those things because missing an arm and a leg and I rappel quickly that like, you know, I show them I know what I'm doing.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
Uh so that's always been fun. Now, I I enjoy rappelling.
Ken Rideout
What what do you think went wrong? Like what could happen there?
Noah Galloway
Oh, I you know, it could have been a a whole plethora of things like, you know, depending how the rope uh how the equipment was, if there's a malfunction. You know, that's what they say one thing about even jump school. Uh they say if you ever, you know, are about to go jump and you're not nervous, you quit jumping because you need to check everything more than once. And then when you're like when you're in the plane, you check the person in front of you. Like when their back is to you, you're checking their back and the person behind you is checking your back.
Your chute and everything. So if you're not nervous, you may skip something. Not saying that's what happened. I have no idea what happened, but there's a whole list of things that could have went wrong. It'd be interesting to see uh as this comes out what happened because hopefully that'll prevent this from happening again in the future.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Okay, so you get through Air Assault school, then where do you go?
Noah Galloway
Uh so I mean Air Assault school, like that was just went to a school and then you go back to your company and keep doing your thing. Uh and of course then I was in the invasion Iraq in 2003.
Ken Rideout
Your whole your whole company.
Noah Galloway
Yeah. So the way that the invasion Iraq went, there was a huge, you know, bombing campaign. We were there in Kuwait waiting for that. And then the Marines and 3rd ID, which is a a bunch of tanks, went in uh straight up the middle. Yep. And we, the 101st, would uh helicopters would leapfrog us to different villages that we'd we'd hit and take over so they could move forward, and we just kept doing that all the way into Baghdad. Uh and for me, that was the most exciting thing I could have done.
Ken Rideout
So, the helicopter would pick you up, fly you into a village where no one else no other Americans would be You would Would you rappel or would they land?
Noah Galloway
We would land just short of the city. You know, they'd land in the desert, you'd jump out, dust flying everywhere, the helicopter would take off, and then boom, you'd move forward.
Ken Rideout
Assault forward.
Noah Galloway
Yeah, and then go into the city. There were times I you know, I always thought this was cool was we were going in I don't know if it was Najaf, Karbala, where we were going, but we're walking into the city, and you you experienced it in training, but it's different when it's really happening. You got artillery firing from way back there. You don't know where they are. They're firing, and you could hear, you know, uh the sound barrier break as it would pop right over your head.
And at a certain point, you know, someone with us would call for a shift fire, so they'd know to shift their fire not land on us. And I remember thinking, I hope they they're good at what they're doing.
Ken Rideout
And do the people in the villages, are they welcoming you in or are they just like cuz it's like some of these people are just innocent villagers, and they're like, "What the hell is going on? Our village is being overrun by
Noah Galloway
Oh, it was like we were a parade. You know, cuz like, you know, it would either be us rolling through a city and everyone comes out to see us.
Ken Rideout
Yeah, I'm sure.
Noah Galloway
You know, cuz they're like, "Oh, well, here's these people that are here." Um or there was they did this thing with psyops where there were these vehicles that had these huge speakers.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
And they were announcing things to the town as we would roll in. And I found out years later from a general that the way Petraeus designed the invasion of Iraq, we, the 101st, were appearing to be a much bigger force than we were as we were rolling into these towns. Which was cool to learn what you were doing. That's funny. Uh so they were making us appear to be this massive force as we would push through even though we weren't. Uh and it was it was exciting.
Ken Rideout
Yeah. But did you get any resistance at all?
Noah Galloway
There would be a little bit here and there but most of it no, they were dispersing which was smart on their part. Like it's just like I always remind people when you know, guys would be like, "Ah, you know, they're not fighting fair." I'm like, "Well, yeah, we didn't fight fair against the British. Remember that?" You know, they they said because we weren't standing in a field wearing bright uniforms and hiding behind bushes and trees and barns, we weren't fighting fair. But no, that's we couldn't take the British on you know, headfirst.
Yeah. They couldn't take us on that way. So they would disperse and we would find a lot of weapons caches and there'd be warm food sitting there, you know, they just left. And they did what was smart. As we pushed through, they let us settle in. Then they started hitting us. And which was, you know, it was smart.
Ken Rideout
Yeah. And so when you would push into the village, would you guys set up camp there and be like camp
Noah Galloway
Would be we would take over a building. I remember so we had our company commander uh it was Captain Stanton back then. Now I think he's got his third star.
Ken Rideout
Oh, wow.
Noah Galloway
Yeah, like this guy is no and nobody's surprised. He was just a stud. And but he was all about taking on all the objectives and pushing us as far as he could, which we loved. Um he Petraeus loved him, you know what I mean? So we got to really be pushing forward. And he would update us that the other companies, like they would do two or three objectives in a day and we were knocking out six or eight. You know, and then at a certain point you would hit a weapons cache in a building and we just take it over and sleep there for the night and then boom, take off the next day.
Ken Rideout
Were you surprised at either the sophistication of the weapons or the lack of sophistication?
Noah Galloway
Lack of sophistication.
Ken Rideout
They just have basic guns.
Noah Galloway
Yes. Yeah, everything's very basic, you know, your your AK's, uh mortars, that was the majority of things that they were using. Uh and then, you know, one of the things they would do cuz we would constantly mortars were easy for them to do. Somebody had explained to me that there was something they would do with the mortar rounds and freeze them in ice, make them like a block of ice cuz then they could set it up in the tube and then leave. Cuz then once it it the it thawed and it dropped and then hit its target, you know, our systems would pick up where it came from and drop something there but there's no way
Ken Rideout
Oh, got you.
Noah Galloway
Cuz they were just They were actually I everything they did was you know, was very basic but it worked.
Ken Rideout
Did they have any like sophisticated tactics that you were like, "Oh, that was smart." Like the ice.
Noah Galloway
Uh well, I mean, yeah. I mean, everything they did. I mean, the average you know, you you could tell a difference from a roadside bomb from if it was highly sophisticated or if it was just a local who made it. But still impressive yeah. Cuz I'll tell you what, I don't know how to make a bomb. And you know, the fact that you know, these people were capable of doing that was impressive. I don't know if there were guys going out and and showing them how to do it or what.
Uh I know for me, not to jump ahead, but there was the roadside bombs in the beginning they would set them up and run a wire and lay in the bushes and have a detonator.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
And so when they would do that, if a bomb went off to our right side, we just shoot up the bushes right there.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
Well, then they started using Motorola pagers. Well, then a company designed antennas that went on all the Humvees that would scramble the signal. So, all the time you would hit bombs that they would go off just in front of or just behind you. You know, somebody's just hitting that detonator and they would go off. Well, when I got hit, the night I got hit, we're it was at night and we would drive with your headlights off. So, it kind of gave away your you didn't give away your position you wear your night vision goggles.
And with night vision goggles, you can see well but you can't see everything. And what I didn't see that night was a trip wire stretched across the road. So, that was very clever.
Ken Rideout
Were you driving?
Noah Galloway
I was.
Ken Rideout
Okay.
Noah Galloway
And we took off down the road and when I hit it and it hit my door, like this explosion was big enough that this armored Humvee was 9,000 lb.
Ken Rideout
Jeez.
Noah Galloway
And it sent it flying through the air, tumbling, and landing in a canal running adjacent to the road.
Ken Rideout
Oh my god.
Noah Galloway
So, it was you know, it was very well done the way they set it up because it was effective. You know, here it was, we were beating them with technology. So, they took a step back and it worked.
Ken Rideout
Do you remember the first time you guys got into a firefight?
Noah Galloway
Oh, I mean every There was multiple times we'd get into fights and sometimes they would drag on. Sometimes it ended as quickly as it started. You know what I mean? They were really good at popping off some shots
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
And disappearing.
Ken Rideout
Okay.
Noah Galloway
Uh I remember one day we would we took over a building. So, here it was, it was my second deployment and we're in what's known as the triangle of death.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
And we would
Ken Rideout
Sounds like a fun place.
Noah Galloway
Yeah. We would spread out and we had different locations we had take over and our one platoon A platoon platoon is about 30 guys. We were at uh this building that we'd stay at for a few days and there was an intersection and we had a Humvee sitting there and uh 240 Bravo machine gun on top of it and just you'd take turns being up either on the roof or in the vehicle, you know, pulling security. And it was my shift to go be in the Humvee, you know, be the gunner and I'm standing there and we had uh a couple of Iraqis that worked with us because it was an intersection.
So, as people would drive through, they'd have to go through this checkpoint.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
So, we were working with them and there's nobody out there. We're just standing there and my medic uh Harley Shanklin he come out. And he's like, "Hey Galloway." I he he brought me a cookie. I don't know where he got the cookie from, but he brought me a cookie and a Gatorade.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
And I was like that and I turn around and I'm like, thank you. And I'm getting this cookie, and then I hear this boom noise. And I see the Iraqi's eyes get real big. And I just kind of hunch over, and boom, an RPG goes off right near us. And I turn around, and there's a vehicle, and I just start lighting it And then as I I'm shooting this machine gun, it's loud, it's rapid-fire, I hear this pop pop pop going off. like, what is that noise?
I look over, and our medic, Harley, is shooting. And I was like, yeah! You know, it was one of those moments like in a movie you're like, get it! You know, we were both just shooting at this vehicle.
Ken Rideout
He was probably so happy to get some shots off.
Noah Galloway
I know, cuz the medic doesn't do anything. You know what I mean? He's constantly taking care of us. So, it was things like that that were always exciting, cuz you never knew what was going to pop off.
Ken Rideout
How many deployments before you had your accident?
Noah Galloway
Yeah, my second deployment. That second deployment was when I got injured.
Ken Rideout
How soon into it, and how
Noah Galloway
I was I think I was only there for 3 months.
Ken Rideout
And what's a deployment typically?
Noah Galloway
About a year.
Ken Rideout
Oh, damn.
Noah Galloway
Yeah, and it was a bad deployment. We lost a lot of guys before I even got injured.
Ken Rideout
Really?
Noah Galloway
And then after I was injured, we just kept losing guys. Uh so, they wrote a book, uh Black Hearts, One Platoon's Demise in the Triangle of Death. And uh that was about first platoon. I was in second platoon, um but it all tied together. It was just We had bad leadership. Uh we had a colonel that ended up with the book came out. Uh he was pushed out of the military cuz it just it exposed everything. And in fact, he never came to our area. And here it was, I'm I'm waiting to go special forces.
It's like I have this dream you know, that I want to follow this this line and he came to our area and said, Galloway, pack your stuff. You have selection. And I looked at him and I said, no, sir. I'm not leaving the deployment for a school. And he looked at me like I was an idiot. Because it was it was a bad deployment, and I To this day, I made the right decision because if I would have left my guys to go to a school in those conditions, I would have felt horrible.
Now, 2 weeks later, I got hit by roadside bomb and my deployment was over, but I didn't choose that.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
So, that I can live with.
Ken Rideout
Would have been frowned upon by the by the guys in your company if you were like, "Guys, I'm out of here. I'm going to Special Forces?"
Noah Galloway
You know what? I don't think so. Uh I worked with some good guys that would have been excited for me, but I couldn't have dealt with that.
Ken Rideout
Okay. Uh that's interesting. All right. So, on the day on the night Was it daytime or nighttime?
Noah Galloway
Nighttime.
Ken Rideout
Nighttime. So, on the night you got injured, what like what was the lead up to it?
Noah Galloway
So, we Okay. So, that day we had two different missions missions our one platoon had to run. So, like I said, there's about 30 guys, so half of us went to do one mission and the other half of us went to another. And the group I was with, we'd finished what we were out there doing. Like, we were I think we were looking for weapons they were hidden somewhere. I don't know. We didn't find anything.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
And we headed back to an old potato factory we were living out of. And when we got there, I laid down. You know, because I always tell people when you live in a combat We never lived on a camp.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
When you live in a combat zone with the locals and you get a chance to rest, you take it.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
Well, just as I started to doze off, my platoon leader, Lieutenant Jerry Edson, woke me up and was like, "Hey, Galloway. There's nothing important going on. We're just going to take the Humvees to go pick up the rest of platoon. There's nothing important going on. We're just going to pick them up and come back. Just wanted you to know we were leaving." Well, that was when I was like, "No, I'm going and I'm driving the lead vehicle."
Ken Rideout
Who were they going to leave you there by yourself?
Noah Galloway
No, no, no. I was with You know, it was a old group of us.
Ken Rideout
Okay.
Noah Galloway
And even the potato factory, we would rotate um different platoons that would pull security
Ken Rideout
Okay.
Noah Galloway
On it. So, we were three platoons and a headquarters platoon, but three platoons that are constantly rotating in different areas.
Ken Rideout
Okay.
Noah Galloway
I jumped up and said, "No, I'm going and I'm driving the lead vehicle." So, that's when we took off.
And now I hit the um roadside bomb before we ever picked up the rest of the guys. Who was in the Humvee with you? It was me. I was driving. My platoon leader, Lieutenant Jerry Edson, was the passenger, and then we had a gunner. Everything hit my door. Um the all the bulletproof glass carry uh cut Jerry all up, shattered his left wrist. The gunner got some shrapnel in his legs, but nothing severe. In fact, he never left country. They he went to Baghdad, was taken care of there, and then went back to the company.
Jerry went back to Fort Campbell, Kentucky, um to heal up, and then just stayed there, and then I was, you know, severely injured. So, I was transported from there. They drove me back to the Tater Factory. Medics worked on me there. Helicopter picked me
Ken Rideout
Were you conscious?
Noah Galloway
No.
Ken Rideout
So, you when As soon as the bomb went off, you don't remember anything.
Noah Galloway
None of it. None of In fact, I don't, you know, they from there to Baghdad, hospital there, from there to Germany, Germany to Walter Reed Army Medical Center in DC. I briefly woke up in Germany. Uh I remember little things happening, didn't know what was going on. Uh and then went back to sleep, and then woke up the night of Christmas Day at Walter Reed. It In fact, that's one thing that was impressive about the care for the troops in combat now. These numbers, you know, I I'd read this years ago, so hopefully they're factual, but, you know, I was told that I read once that in Vietnam for every one soldier killed, seven survived.
So, but the around the time I got injured, for every one soldier killed, 27 survived. That's because of better better body armor, you know, armor on the vehicles, uh first aid, you know, medics training, all that. There's all these things that go into it. And they can get you out of country and back to the States within 24 to 48 hours. It took them 6 days to get me to the States.
Ken Rideout
How come?
Noah Galloway
I was never stable enough to fly. In fact, they were going to fly my family to Germany for their goodbyes.
Ken Rideout
Really?
Noah Galloway
And then, before they flew to Germany, they got a call that said he's stable enough to get to Walter Reed. So, they're able to get me to Walter Reed and then, you know, a lot of surgeries, but, you know, I survived.
Ken Rideout
What was the main cause of the lack of stabilization? Just blood loss?
Noah Galloway
I'm not real sure. Uh I don't know. Now, I was told by a medic that um I had went cuz now I was thrown in the water. And they said the water was up to my chest and I was in the water for a while before people were able to get there and help the two guys that were injured, you know, they couldn't get me
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
For them to get me out of the water. Well, you know, if you're in water, your blood can't clot.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
And the pictures I have of my Humvee, after they pulled it out of the water, it was in the water so long that you can see the waterline and blood is still pouring out of it. So, I was told by a head medic that he goes, "Noah, you went so long without blood to your brain, I knew you'd never walk or talk again. I was just trying to save your life."
Ken Rideout
Jeez.
Noah Galloway
So, yeah, there was a lot of complications that, you know, I was going through, but I pulled through.
Ken Rideout
It's crazy that they were able to save you after all of that that happened. So, then you wake up in Walter Reed and when do you realize like, "Holy [ __ ] I have no leg and arm?"
Noah Galloway
Well, so, I wake up as my parents were walking in.
Ken Rideout
Mhm.
Noah Galloway
And I remember when I saw my mom, something in the back of my mind said, "Smile so she knows you're okay." You know, and I don't know why that was I just my first thought. And it was actually my mom who told me what condition I was in because it was late at night, there was nobody there. Usually the parents are greeted by somebody, but when they they got there late at night, too. Like and they just went straight to my room. They found out where I was and just got in there and yeah, it was you know, even though I'm laying in that hospital bed missing two of my limbs and then severe injuries to my right hand, my right leg had no feeling, my jaw was shattered, so my mouth was wired shut.
Like, I didn't know what I had, what I didn't have, what hurt, what didn't hurt. Like, I was just laying there. And yeah, it was all news to me the condition I was in.
Ken Rideout
And so, what did you remember what she said?
Noah Galloway
Uh she said she goes, "No, you've lost your left arm above the elbow, your left leg above the knee, you have severe injuries to your right leg, there's no feeling in it, they can't get it to work, you have severe injuries to your right hand, and your jaw was shattered, so your mouth is wired shut."
Ken Rideout
So, you can't even talk back to her to ask any follow-up questions.
Noah Galloway
Cuz I I had a my trach was you know, I had you know, my throat was opened up and I had this little piece that had to go in there
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
So I could even attempt to talk.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
Um and I would wake up and it'd be across the room. I think my sisters were trying to keep me from talking too much.
Ken Rideout
Jesus, that had to be hard to hear.
Noah Galloway
Yeah, well, you know, and then not uh you know to add insult to injury my wife at the time, we have my oldest son together. We didn't have a good marriage. Um she left me.
Ken Rideout
While this happened?
Noah Galloway
Yeah, while I was in the hospital, yeah. And I think she married the guy she was dating while I was deployed, and then they divorced and uh her I think her fifth or sixth husband she just had died 6 months into their marriage. I remember I asked my son, they don't really talk. I was like, "You think she killed him?"
Ken Rideout
Holy cow.
Noah Galloway
So, I don't know, you know, what you know, you know, I'm not trying to be you know, in in in her defense, we were young and
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
Whatever. I got no anger towards anyone.
Ken Rideout
That's a rough time to leave someone, though.
Noah Galloway
I'll tell you what, but when I look back, when I went through the healing process of that it wasn't until recently. And I didn't even realize it was something I was holding on to. I was I went into therapy one day and was doing uh EMDR, eye movement
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
Whatever it I don't know what it stands for. Um
Ken Rideout
Rapid eye movement something or
Noah Galloway
But it's very effective. Brings up things. Well, I had a session and then worked through some stuff with my ex-wife, and then I got in the car and I called one of my sisters. And my ex-wife's name is Brandy, and I said uh I said, "Brandy really effed me up. Yeah." And uh she goes, "Noah, we've been waiting 20 years for you to say that." And it really hit me. I I don't miss her. You know what I mean? In fact, I don't think I was ever really I I never was in love.
Um but to have something like I was in my early 20s. And to just bottle that up then made me very cynical to anyone I ever dated or was with after that. And it wasn't until I healed that I was able to see how I was in my relationship with my wife, Amanda, that I love and adore and I want to give her the best life I can, but I was constantly on edge of thinking she's going to leave me. She's going to cheat on me.
You know, whatever it is. All the things that were ingrained in me at a young age that thinking this is how women treat you. When that's not true. You know, there are women that will and there are men that will do it to women, but that doesn't mean everyone's doing it. But when you're when you're convinced they are, it's hard to get that out of your head. And then you can't change it until you heal what caused it.
Ken Rideout
It's amazing to hear like based on your early life how comfortable you are like with being in therapy now because the guy at the brick factory doesn't strike me as someone who's going to therapy and working through a trauma.
Noah Galloway
You know, and now I'm very open with it. I'm Not only am I open with it, I love I'll give you an example. A couple months ago I was down in Orlando, uh spoke at a fundraiser for the Children's Miracle Network. They provide funding for children's hospital. Well, they wanted me to be their keynote speaker. Well, anytime I go and speak, especially for a fundraiser, my goal is I want to give a speech that you know, helps raise more money than you'd raise before. So, I go into it and I had worked out this speech where and I didn't I'd never shared this part of my story.
Just never came up, but my oldest son, Coston, who's in the Coast Guard now, when he was born prematurely, he lost 85% of his small intestines. And we spent 3 months at Children's Hospital in Nashville. Well, so I shared part of the speech was that. 8 minutes of me talking about my son and how Children's Hospital was there for for me and my family. Second half of the speech was the fact that living in Birmingham as a double amputee, I get invited to Children's Hospital all the time to meet a child who recently who's recently become an amputee.
Years ago, I got a call for a young man named Quinn, lost his leg to cancer. I go, I meet him. Great time. Uh well, then after that, turns out the cancer was all over his body. Well, then I started going and sitting up there while he was doing chemo. That evolved into me driving, you know, an hour and a half out of town to go pick him up to take him back to Birmingham for his appointments. Him staying at the house with me and my wife and the kids.
We became very close. At 19, he graduated high school. I was at his graduation and then shortly after that, he passed away. I shared that. Um and it was it was interesting when we did the call about this fundraiser, they mentioned that the auctioneer was right after me. And he was doing they said, "He's going to do a paddle raise after." I said, "Oh, so he's going to do a fund-a-need." They're like, "Yeah, how did you know that's what it was called?" I said, "Well, I'm also an auctioneer.
I went to auctioneer school." So, I knew what was about to happen. So, a fund-a-need is where the auctioneer gets up and says, "Okay, if you want to donate, for example, $1,000, raise your paddle, we'll get your you know, so handful of people raise their paddles, get their numbers, they're going to donate a thousand. Then it's like, "Who wants to donate 500? Who wants to donate 100?" So, it gives everybody an opportunity to donate something and that adds up. So, knowing that that was right after I spoke and me choosing to share those stories, when I spoke about Quinn and the connection I had with him and then I mentioned that I have a 3-year-old son now whose middle name is Quinn.
Uh you know, I did that intentionally because Quinn was a part of our family and we love him. And I got emotional sharing that. They wanted to raise $700,000. They raised over a million dollars that night. Now, it wasn't just me, there was a whole program that went on and it was amazing. But, after I spoke, the amount of people that came up to you, especially the men.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
I had a guy come up to me and say, "I'm not a crier, but you had me and everyone at that table crying." I love being the guy that you know, some may see as this tough guy that's went and done all these things, but I can show this softer side of myself.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
You know what I mean? I'm not just a weakling walking around, but I'm not afraid of my emotions. And I feel like that's my goal in life right now is to be someone that shows others it's okay. Yeah. In fact, you know, I've told people if you can show sadness, that prevents that anger for coming from coming out cuz for about 40 years of my life, it was always anger until I learned how to uh truly react to my emotions.
Ken Rideout
It seems like quite an evolution to the guy you described in your early childhood.
Noah Galloway
Look, I am, you know, always tell people, you know, therapy doesn't make you a different person, but it also makes you a different person. Yeah. You know, I mean, if you really break it down, we're always changing. I I When I walk out of this studio, I'll be a different person than than walked in, but who I was for 40 years of my life and who I am now, very different.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
My reactions to things are much different. I don't get triggered. I don't fly off the handle like I used to. You know, everything that I've experienced in life has been an evolution and that, you know, has because I do therapy. I go to my therapist. I have experimented with a lot of psychedelics. I've done a lot of inner work that um I choose to continue working on because I'm happy with the person I've become.
Ken Rideout
It's like um I've said this before on the show, but with even like psychedelics, I just came back from an ibogaine experience in Mexico. Those things provide just a small course correction. They don't make you a different person. You have to take You have to integrate what you learn from those experiences into your life. Same with therapy. Nothing's going to change you overnight. No supplement, no therapy. The Ibogaine or DMT or any of these things isn't a silver bullet. You're not going to come out of there and be like, "I'm a different person.
Look at me."
Noah Galloway
You want it to. You want it to.
Ken Rideout
But it can show you a different direction and that's that's been helpful. Did you do Ibogaine?
Noah Galloway
Oh, I have done Ibogaine. Yes.
Ken Rideout
What was your experience like?
Noah Galloway
Okay, so well I have to so I the the list of psychedelics I've experienced started with psilocybin.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
And my wife was living out in LA running some yoga studios. So she was introduced to psilocybin. So then we were talking, you know, for a couple years. Then I moved out to Alabama and in the beginning of our relationship she spotted my issues.
Ken Rideout
By the way, LA By the way, LA to Alabama
Like, "It's the same. Come on." Oh, yeah. No, it was a huge culture shock.
Yeah, sure it was.
Noah Galloway
When I say she spotted my shortcomings, they were pretty obvious. You know what I mean? Like and I told I remember I told my oldest son when him and his wife began their relationship I was like, "Look, when two people live together all of their traumas going to come out."
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
Like you it's it's forced out. So, you know, be cautious of that and work through it. So, mine was coming out. And it wasn't healthy, wasn't good. And she introduced me to psilocybin. Now, I will admit uh first time I did it I was like, "Yeah, I'll do drugs."
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
You know what I mean? Let's do this. So, I never truly went into it.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
You know, with the right intentions. But I always say that was the first crack in the armor.
Ken Rideout
Yep.
Noah Galloway
And then I did it a few more times. And with psilocybin and I'll get to the Ibogaine question.
Ken Rideout
No, I'm curious. What was the psilocybin? Cuz I've never done that one.
Noah Galloway
Okay, so still what it did for me and I was doing hero journeys. So they were like four or five grams. And so you lay down cover your eyes, music, boom, you're in it. I would I would cry uncontrollably. And my wife was like, "I've never seen anybody react like this." Like she's trying to wrap her head around it. Like it was every sadness I've ever had in my life was coming up. And I needed it. Uh so it was this healing process of learning to cry.
Ken Rideout
Was it scary?
Noah Galloway
No, it was it was never scary. Psilocybin was never scary. Um I mean there was a few times I think cuz I've done it like uh six times or so, may have had moments that were a little dark.
Ken Rideout
Mhm.
Noah Galloway
Or they would touch on an emotion.
Ken Rideout
Mhm.
Noah Galloway
Usually it was about my kids.
Ken Rideout
Okay.
Noah Galloway
Feeling like I wasn't doing it I haven't done enough as a father. Well, after psilocybin I went and did my wife found uh Heroic Hearts Project. And so I went to Peru and did ayahuasca. Now, ayahuasca 3 days in a row uh of doing ayahuasca. And that you know that can last Psilocybin can last like 4 hours. Ayahuasca can be 8 10 hours. Dark.
Ken Rideout
Dark scary?
Noah Galloway
My Look, my experience Everybody's experience is different. But like what they say is they call her Mother Ayahuasca. And Mother Ayahuasca is going to show you your drama whether you want to see it or not. And mine was miserable.
Ken Rideout
After the first night were you like, "Fuck this. I'm not doing this again."
Noah Galloway
But the After the second night, the third day I was like a prisoner of war plotting my escape. I'm like, "Okay, how do I get out of here?" We're in the jungle. Okay. Like I literally was thinking In fact, when we went into the maloca that third and final day and us eight veterans you're in there and we have our yoga mats and I'm laying there and the lady's kind of leading them through a little meditation and breath work to lead up to it. And I remember her saying, "Or just lay there.
That's okay." cuz I was just angry.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
Want to be. The next day the other guys were like, "Were you okay yesterday?" I was like, "I didn't want to be here, but I'm glad I did that third night, you know."
Uh cuz it did. Uh I needed all three to to do the healing. And I you know, of course you come home from an experience like that and you're on this high, but it is it's the work you do afterwards that keeps it.
Ken Rideout
You also have to remember that the other people you're coming home to haven't done that and don't expect them to be as giddy and happy as you are. You know what? I'm glad you said that. One of the guys I was there with had really he's lot of struggles, lot of trauma.
Noah Galloway
It was just all over his face like you could just see it in him. And he had he told me his wife had he's has even talked about leaving him. And I remember I said to him I said remember what we just experienced they haven't. And just like my wife like I want to be I want to improve as a husband, but just because I come home in a good mood she's going to wait and see you know if there if it keeps going. Just because I'm super happy and awesome for a month does not help our relationship.
Cuz she's seen years of evidence that that isn't temporary. And now And it was it was kind of like I was on this high from it at first and then it kind of fades away. Well, then I got a chance to try 5-MeO-DMT. And 5-MeO-DMT they call it you know, the Bufo frog which actually is from the Alvarius frog, but
Ken Rideout
you know Did you would do the actual Bufo or the synthesized version? So it was it wasn't the synthesized. I've done that didn't care for it.
Noah Galloway
This was actually crystallized frog toad venom. Yeah, the toad venom. And of course you know, I'm go big or go home. Like you know, they're like hit this take it inhale it. I'm like like I'm taking it all in. Same. I remember as soon as I inhaled it I remember saying the first time I did this in Malibu I remember saying nothing could prepare me for this. And then you're like and then your whole head explodes. You know, and then my experience was so my wife is there I take that huge hit and she said I went back stiff as a board.
Yep. And then I became violent.
Ken Rideout
Oh, seen that too.
Noah Galloway
And she said that cuz afterwards like even to this day it's been a long time. She's like you should reach out to Bill again and thank him because she told and he told me he goes no if you'd have had all your limbs I could not have held you down. He had to get on top of me to hold me down.
But I was having this peaceful experience internally. So when it was done you know for
Ken Rideout
You don't remember any of it like you just like oh that was cool.
Noah Galloway
Yeah and then but for me the next couple of weeks after I had these like reintegration moments where they say can happen where it would just pull me back in and it was so eye-opening. It was bringing things to light. So I was benefiting from it. Well then about two months go by and the opportunity to do 5-MeO-DMT comes up again. I'm like I want to do it again. Now I go into it the second time. Didn't tell anyone this didn't tell my wife this but I was my my mind had gone back into my depression.
And I've said for years I've never been suicidal. But what I've learned in my healing is no I was never going to take my own life but I kept putting myself in situations where it was okay if I lost my life.
Ken Rideout
I bet you were.
Noah Galloway
Was this darkness inside of me that I was healing so I could enjoy life.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
Well I was in this place where I just didn't want to be here.
Ken Rideout
Mhm.
Noah Galloway
So I just was looking forward to a moment of leaving reality. So this is what I was going into.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
Didn't tell anybody and I hit the pipe and my wife said that I just softly sat back laid there peacefully a smile on my face but when I came to I leaned up and I grabbed her arm and I was like I need you. I had this terrifying experience. I don't remember any of it but then over the next couple of days it started I started realizing that whatever my brain showed me or told me in that 20 minutes was basically you do not belong here, you belong there.
So then suddenly I wanted to be with my family more. I wanted that time with my wife, my time with my children. That's what I I I gathered from it. So it was completely different reaction.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
All right, within a couple of months, I'm sorry I'm rambling. I you know I have
Ken Rideout
No, no, I love it.
Noah Galloway
I go to I get invited uh I had a veteran and another guy from England that had bought this this land and we're trying to create a retreat center in the Dominican Republic. Well, they reached out to me and a couple of other veterans that I'd never met and invited us to just experience what they built, maybe do some brainstorming, you know, whatever. Uh so I was like, yeah, I'm not going to turn down a free trip to the Dominican Republic. Go, had a great time, Samana.
Have you ever been there? Like it is amazing.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
So we go and I meet these other veterans and people are talking about Ibogaine. And I'm like, I want to do Ibogaine. You know? Well, and I'll I'll I'll say this, my wife's one of these people, I've never been one that has been like, oh, you know, the universe will give you what you need.
Ken Rideout
Yeah. You know, all that, blah, blah, blah.
Noah Galloway
Two days after we had this conversation, I get an email from the CEO of Beyond, which is in Cancun. Tom
Um and he just randomly reaches out to me. He's reaching out to people that have, you know, some followings on social media and invites me to come do a free treatment of Ibogaine if and I'd be comfortable sharing it on social media. And I'm like, your timing is perfect. He didn't know any of the people I was with. Like this was just pure chance or divine intervention, whichever you want to call it, but it worked. And within 2 months I was in Cancun doing Ibogaine. Now, I've I've shared my psilocybin, my ayahuasca, 5-MeO-DMT.
Well, now I'm in Cancun going to do Ibogaine. Now, before I went, I reached out two friends of mine who had done ibogaine. And both times I said, "Look, I know we're not supposed to compare, you know, everyone's experience is different, but I am just curious. What was your ibogaine experience like?" And both of them were like, "It was miserable." You know what I mean? I was like, "Oh, crap. It's going to be like ayahuasca again." And I'm like, "Dang it." So, I go into it.
I do I take my dose. Now, ibogaine, as you know, is a lot more There's a lot more that can go into it. Like, they're monitoring your heart. There's just a lot more risk there.
Ken Rideout
And then the By the way, one quick thing is the reason that people have like cuz it gets a lot of bad a bad rap because people have died, but it's usually because of interactions with other drugs that are contraindicated with ibogaine. So, I went to Ambio. And when you get there, they give you like the most, you know, they give you the urine analysis, right? And if you've ever taken these, if you're a true junkie like I am, you know all the tests around the thing.
You can't see the results cuz there's a piece of paper they rip off, but you can see there's like, you know, 20 assays, let's say. The one at The one at Ambio had like the whole cup was ring. That was like, "Holy [ __ ] this is a lot of tests. I hope I don't have any drugs in my system." But the, you know, obviously I didn't, but um they do that because they want to make sure you don't have anything in your system. And then you're on a heart monitor and stuff.
And having gone through it now, like
Noah Galloway
Well, there were Well, there were two people when I was there. One of them was an older gentleman who his heart He had had some heart issues in the past, so they had him doing uh microdoses. Uh which they they feel like is just as effective. Just takes longer. And then there was another woman that the day of her ibogaine, they were monitoring everything in the morning of. They were like, "You're not going to be able to do it." You know what I mean? Cuz they are.
They're they're And you want a facility like Ambio or Beyond that
Ken Rideout
Because they don't want that bad press. But I will tell you this, at Ambio, we went down in one van. I was with my friend Dustin Poirier and a couple other lads. And uh two vets that came with us. And we had like this whole house. And they they were Ambio is [ __ ] awesome. And anyway, there were some women leaving from the hotel in San Diego at the same time. And we just crossed paths with them. Hey, hey, good luck. All right. And they went in their van and we went in ours.
And one of the women reached out to me and was like, "How was your experience?" Blah, blah, blah. She recognized me from social media. So, I was like, "Oh, it was good." And she was like, "Yeah." Now, they They told me in the email, but like I'm one of these people that gets something from IKEA that throws the directions away and just puts it together. And probably did the same with the email from them. I'm like, "Yeah, yeah, I'm not worried about it." And it said on there, "Don't drink." Now, I I'm not a drinker.
But we were in the hotel. We had I had me and Dustin had dinner. And I was walking and I was like, "Oh, they have these canned cocktails and I'm so nervous. Maybe I'll just have a drink before I get on." And I thank God I didn't because the woman was like, "Oh, yeah, one of the women who came down with us, they sent her home. She had a drink like 3 nights before and they test you for alcohol." And they they told her hit the road.
And sent her back to San Diego. Thank God she lived in San Diego, but So, they don't play around. They don't want that They don't want you having a bad experience. They're not for something that's avoidable. So, anyway, all that to say so
Noah Galloway
Well, okay. So, yeah. So, I go into doing mine and for like 8 hours I dry heaved.
Ken Rideout
Yeah, you know, one of the vets that was with us One of the four people dry heaved the whole time.
Noah Galloway
Yeah.
Ken Rideout
I had no problem.
Noah Galloway
After I did it and then I was done and they took me back to my room and then they got your room set up. You know, they got you know, the lights on the wall. Um I was still in it
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
For hours.
Ken Rideout
Did you have the buzzing?
Noah Galloway
I don't remember there being a buzzing at
Ken Rideout
The buzzing in my ears like for 12 hours.
Noah Galloway
Now, let me ask you this. This is like when I tell people Okay, so I dry heaved for a long time. I did have some visions. And then we did 2 days later a uh smaller dose.
Ken Rideout
And we did DMT 2 days later.
Noah Galloway
Did Yep, cuz ambio does the DMT and then beyond does a secondary dose. Uh you know, 2 days later.
Ken Rideout
The next day they were like, you know, some places they do a second night. And And for whatever reason the next day I was like, "You couldn't pay me a million dollars to do that again." But like But 3 days later I was like, "I'm going to do that again." And I was talking to Dustin, he was like, yeah, we should go and do it again.
Noah Galloway
Yeah, you know, well, here's what happened to me is it wasn't none of my visions were were negative. Uh it was very intro very eye-opening. I had some like in fact mine was more of the first vision I was removed from the planet and was able to see the planet from the distance and then another experience I left the entire universe.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
And but then I was fine with it. Uh and I I think it had something to do with you know constantly feeling like I have to perform.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
You know, and just being okay in my own skin and just accept you know all these different things you kind of find. But for me the day after and then the day after I did the secondary dose the morning was miserable. Uh I was in such a dark place for the first few hours. Uh in fact you know, I always had negative thoughts that just run through my head and get caught in a loop. I'm you know, like so many other people. But the even when you're in a negative thought process, there's at least a part of your brain that's like, well, you know, that may not be true.
Well, these two days each day after I did uh ibogaine until about noon that part of the brain that says maybe this isn't true would never come on. So then those negative thoughts really took me I mean one morning after that first experience, I got up and it was like 2:00 in the morning and I get up and I walk out. There's the the nurses' station and then I walk into the you know, past it and there's a living room and there's two couches and there's each one of the nurses is still you know, fully clothed but they're laying down asleep.
I was like, I'm not going to bother them. Yeah, because it's the middle of the night. And I didn't want to bother them and then I walk down the hallway and then just lean up against the wall, slide down the wall and just start sobbing. And then the nurse hears me, he comes over and I'm like, I'm a horrible person. You know, what I mean? He's like all these bad things are just replaying in my head. Uh but then by noon, boom, I was back to my normal self.
You know, and but it was those experiences that I had. Now, leaving uh Beyond after doing ibogaine, by pure chance, in fact, I took the call while at the retreat center, someone had told me about Wisdom Dojo. Have you heard of that?
Ken Rideout
No.
Noah Galloway
So, Wisdom Dojo is these two gentlemen, one of them's a veteran, but these two gentlemen that met at a like working under like a Buddhist monk somewhere, whatever. They decided, "Hey, let's create a program that is targeting veterans on how to teach meditation, but using it in a format that's like fitness. You know, your repetition and then learning the movements."
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
And so, I was like, "That sounds interesting. Like, I've never been one to meditate, but I'm I'm entering this world of bettering myself." So, I set it up while in at the retreat. In fact, I was like, "Yeah, I just did ibogaine yesterday." You know. So, when I come home a week later, I start this 10-week program of meditation. So, you do a call every week, and then each call starts with you leading the meditation after what you learned the week before. And you have videos you watch throughout the week, and for me, that was the best reintegration.
Was to come off of ibogaine and do a 10-week meditation course. Because when people have asked me, "Which psychedelic You can't say which one does what." And and what someone should or shouldn't do is all on their own.
Ken Rideout
And everyone is different. Like you said, you were dry heaving, I had none of that. The one guy, one older guy that was with a 70-year-old, he didn't move a muscle. His heart rate monitor was facing me, his heart rate didn't get above 50.
Noah Galloway
Really?
Ken Rideout
He just laid there like he was dead. And it was funny talking to everyone after the experience. Like, you know, they're playing music the whole time. Like this tribal music. I was like, "Oh, please, turn this music down." It would be the same verse on repeat seemingly for hours. Yeah. And it was like surrender and all this like meditative stuff and I was like oh for [ __ ] sake I'll surrender if you'll stop with the verse. Just repeat repeat. So I'm thinking about the music and the next day Dustin Poirier is he was in the thing next to me he's like dude how did you know the words to all those songs?
I go are you out of your [ __ ] mind? He goes yeah you were singing the songs I go you really think I knew those songs? And he goes yeah you're right cuz at one point I looked over and your neck and your arms were covered in tattoos and I have no tattoos. It's like and then I I thought that the guys behind me were talking at one point and I like irritating me and I was about to I turned over and I was about to go shut the [ __ ] up and I look back and there's no one there.
But it was like they were talking in my ear.
Noah Galloway
Ear yeah.
Ken Rideout
And the guy the guy who was laid there like he was dead in the morning he goes dude at one point I looked back and you weren't there and I go and he goes I can't believe of all the people Ken quit. And when I woke up we never spoke about you again it was like we never say his name he's gone he quit. And I was like dude I was there the whole time except I went to the bathroom once and he's like that must have been when I looked over.
It was just everyone's experience was wildly different.
Noah Galloway
Was a woman in fact she called me left me a voicemail the other day I need to call her back but she was in the bed next to me there's a the curtain in between us
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
Cuz there's a nurse sitting there monitoring us and then all of a sudden it'd been several hours
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
And she's like it didn't work it didn't work it's not working like she was like in her head
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Like I even I knew even on Ibogaine I wanted to be like you're fine just surrender. Um but she was so in her head
Noah Galloway
Yeah.
And then she like when she got home she would have these it didn't like her integration hasn't been well
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
What I mean she's really struggled uh and I think she wants to go back and it does I met a guy that had battled with um addiction and it was his third time there and you know when I tell people that I say it's not because Ibogaine doesn't work
Ken Rideout
Yep.
Noah Galloway
It's because you can do this just like we were saying and then go home to the same [ __ ] and end up and he said the other two times I did not prepare myself when I got home but now it's prepared for me to not go back into that life because just like the first time you ended up on heroin you weren't a junkie then
Ken Rideout
That's right.
Noah Galloway
But you ended up there and you can you know what they have found is impressive about Ibogaine is how it resets your nervous system and what it has done for addicts and then also people with addiction and then depression and all these different things but you can ease yourself right back into That's right. One of the things I love to say about mental health is for me my experience for 40 years I viewed the world through dirty lenses.
Ken Rideout
Yeah, yeah. That's a good point.
Noah Galloway
It wasn't that it just got dirty all of a sudden because of a deployment. No, my entire life they've just been getting dirtier and dirtier and I didn't know the difference
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
Until they were cleaned. Now my lenses can still get dirty
Ken Rideout
That's right.
Noah Galloway
But I'm prepared to continue washing them so I never experience viewing the world that way again.
Ken Rideout
That's a good way to describe it.
Noah Galloway
That was what was Now did you cut out caffeine before I don't know was caffeine a thing for Ibogaine?
Ken Rideout
Yeah, yeah. I mean for a while I didn't have any caffeine after I did the Ibogaine and then I started slowly getting back on it.
Noah Galloway
For me it was I I didn't really truly give it up. I was kind of cheating the system everything else was fine but the caffeine was hard. Then I got I was at the retreat center and they had coffee there.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
And I was like oh so I guess it's not that big of an issue with Ibogaine but I didn't drink any and then I remember I talked to my wife one day I was like hey babe I was like they got coffee here and I haven't had any.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
She goes no you don't like coffee you just like caffeine. I was like oh yeah good point.
Ken Rideout
Cuz even coffee people are like how do you drink iced coffee? Cuz I can drink it fast.
Noah Galloway
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Ken Rideout
Chug it.
That's right.
So when you when you started recovering at Walter Reed like what was that process like I'm sorry I'm jumping around the listeners like to to the psychedelics and stuff.
Noah Galloway
I jumped I started jumping ahead I'm sorry.
Ken Rideout
So, when you recovering in Walter Reed, like what happens? Like what's the like what's the what's the progression of recovery look like?
Noah Galloway
So, for me they told me I'd be there for 2 years.
Ken Rideout
Really?
Noah Galloway
Yeah, like the first couple of months was just one surgery after another. I don't even remember most of them. Exactly the first couple of months like I was kind of in and out of it. They had me so highly medicated. I wasn't really sure what was going on.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
But then once they cut back on the medication and I started moving around yeah, I was uh I was bitter and angry.
Ken Rideout
I'm sure you were.
Noah Galloway
And in fact and again not to jump ahead, but my mental health journey is what has taught me a lot about what I was going through at that time. And what I realize now is I was in denial of my injuries. You know, it's not that I didn't believe I was missing an arm and a leg. I just wasn't facing it. Or the fact that suddenly a career I'd found you know, I went in the military just to go to war, but then once I got in I fell in love with the military and I wanted to do it for the rest of my life and that was over.
So, there was a lot to to take in and because of that denial I didn't want to be around the other injured guys. Uh I pulled away from the men I served with. Uh like we would talk here and there a few of us, but I just wasn't I wasn't engaging with them the way I needed to. Uh just complete denial. You know, and I've told a lot of them that since is like I've apologized for pulling away, but an example I had um a doctor at Walter Reed say "Why don't you do things with the other veterans?" And I said "Why would I spend time with a whole bunch of cripples?" And so that was me judging, you know, forcing judgment on them thinking that I was better than them.
Not wanting to acknowledge my own insecurities of me losing an arm and a leg. Yeah. My entire life I've been physical. I did construction. I you know did landscaping. I worked in a plant. I was in the infantry. You know what I mean? Everything was physical and then two of my limbs are gone and I'm like I'll never be physical again. My wife leaves me in the hospital. No one will ever want me. But I just pushed all those emotions down and tried to just keep on going about life like nothing was wrong.
And so I was going through all these feelings. I didn't want to go to physical therapy. I just wanted to either sit in my room in silence and just be in my own misery or I wanted to get out of that hospital as quick as I could. And within like 7 months once I got a prosthetic leg and started moving around I just left and moved back to Alabama. Of course now you still have a a chain of command that you have to you know answer to.
And I'd already I had dressed out my chain of command for being an [ __ ] Wouldn't go to formations. Was like nah I'm not doing this crap.
Ken Rideout
What after after the injury?
Noah Galloway
After the injury. I'm at Walter Reed but you still have accountability. You're still in the military. You still have you know a chain of command. But I was so angry and didn't care. I didn't care. So I didn't do what they wanted. In fact when I left Walter Reed I just left. And bought a house.
Ken Rideout
Didn't check you out or anything?
Noah Galloway
Well I bought a house and then one day I get a phone call. Where are you? I'm in Alabama. What are you doing in Alabama? Oh I live here. You live there? Yeah I bought a house. I've been here for the last couple of months. And this guy was so angry with me that he just hangs up. And then a day later you know this E-6 calls me. Hey Sergeant Galloway this is uh Sergeant you know Staff Sergeant so and so. I'm I'm going to do your out processing for you at Walter Reed so you don't have to.
I was like well I appreciate that. Thank you. You know so they decided you know what we'll just do it ourselves and just get rid of this guy. So, that's how I ended up at a Walter Reed.
Ken Rideout
Damn. So, when you went back home, you had no access to the physical therapy, no resources?
Noah Galloway
What I did at first the first couple of years, you know, my house is like 3 and 1/2 hours from Fort Campbell, Kentucky.
Ken Rideout
Mhm.
Noah Galloway
So, once my guys returned back from their deployment and then I moved back to Alabama, oh, a group of them would come down every weekend and we partied like rockstars, you know, and just drank and drank and drank. And that was the life I was living. I rushed into a second marriage.
Ken Rideout
Yep.
Noah Galloway
Had two more children and was just a [ __ ] show of a human being.
Ken Rideout
Mhm.
Noah Galloway
And my wife at the time had battled with a lot of uh addiction and I'd just cleaned up. But she started falling back into that. And then I decided one day, I need to change what I'm doing. Fitness was something I always loved. So, then I joined a 24-hour gym and started going in the middle of the night and just teaching myself how to work out again. So, as I start improving and you can see this, it's really hard on relationships if you have two people that are out of shape and then one of them decides to change and the other one doesn't.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
And it's unfortunate because the person everyone should be responsible for their own well-being and to and to motivate themselves. But if one person's improving the other one isn't and the other one hasn't found that motivation yet, which is easy, you know what I mean? You don't know what they're going through, depression, things, you know, undealt with trauma, whatever's causing it, well, then they're either going to sabotage or they're going to judge the other person. And the better I got, the worse she got. And then we split.
Ken Rideout
Mhm.
Noah Galloway
So, second marriage failed and then, you know, I started doing my own thing and just started pushing myself physically and going back to the um denial of being injured, there are great programs out there, organizations, all these different things for someone like myself, a double amputee, to get into basically whatever sport I want.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
And do well. Like there's a a young man that was born with one arm, uh grew up in Birmingham, now he's in North Carolina. He's one of the golf pros at, you know, this big country club.
One-arm golfer, one of the best. In fact, he was the best one-arm golfer in North America for a long time, but now him and this Canadian one-arm golfer go back and forth. And he had told me one day, he's like, "Noah,
You need to join the one-arm golf association." And I was like, "Brother, I'm not the kind of golfer you are." You know what I mean? Like he's crushing it.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
And I can do well just to not slow the game down.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
And he's like, "Yeah, but it's all categorized." He's like, "And you're a double amputee. You're also missing your leg above the knee. There's only like two other guys you're competing with." I'm like, "Oh, that's actually a great idea." But back when I got, you know, early on in my injury, I couldn't see that. In fact, I didn't want to be around other injured guys.
So I started running races like Tough Mudder, Spartan races, marathons, things like that to push myself, which was challenging, but I was also avoiding competing against other people with disabilities.
Ken Rideout
You were probably also getting positive accolades from others like, "Oh, look at this guy. He's just out here getting it."
Noah Galloway
Like I was the first one of the first guys with a disability running those obstacle course races.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
And gained a lot of attention. And the amount of people I've met with disabilities afterwards, even people who aren't disabled, that know my story from Tough Mudder.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
Like early on, I would go to a Tough Mudder race, and I was a rock star. This was before anyone else knew me, but they knew me at Tough Mudder. They'd announce me over the intercom. Like it was a big deal, and I loved it. Oh, yeah. That attention I was just feeding off of it. And I I Yeah, you're exactly right. If I was competing against other injured guys, I wasn't going to stand out. So yeah, so there was a lot of ego involved. But I was doing all that, and you know, that's you know, part of what even though it was a lot of uh, like I was saying earlier talking about my upbringing and all these different things.
You can't change your past, but there's a lot of ways that we evolve as humans that we adapt to things and my childhood actually benefited when I got injured to challenge and push myself to these crazy levels which got me attention.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
Which I benefited from, but I'm grateful that I eventually was introduced to mental health.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
And now I'm I'm I'm going into things with a different mindset.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
Uh, but I can't change what I've gone through, but I have benefited from it. So, I'm grateful for it and yeah, so from Walter Reed to the gym to the races and then, you know, cover of Men's Health and and getting that out.
Ken Rideout
Yeah, that was that was a cool Men's Health cover.
Noah Galloway
Yeah, that was I was so proud of that because when I was in the military, I was I was the guy that when other guys after work would go drink, I'd go to the gym.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
And so I I'd made comments that one day I'd be on the cover of Men's Health. And then when I was injured, I remember I told a friend of mine. I was like, you know, realistically I'll never be on the cover, but I created all this. I I'm training myself. This is at least worth a story, a mention. And then I end up on the cover and called the ultimate guy. And that was a huge That was the the best recognition that I could have taken for what I have pushed myself to do.
Yeah, you know, like you know, you mentioned like yeah, because of that I went on Ellen and then ended up on Dancing with the Stars, but I'll get into that in a minute, but being on the cover of Men's Health was that proud moment for me.
Ken Rideout
Yeah. No, that's awesome. I've always thought like I want to be on the cover of Men's Health. And when my book came out, I was like, maybe Men's Health will cover and they didn't. [ __ ] you guys. All right, so how does Dancing with the Stars come up?
Noah Galloway
So, I go on Ellen.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
And after they aired that episode, the phone started ringing.
Ken Rideout
Mhm.
Noah Galloway
Survivor called me first.
Ken Rideout
Oh, wow.
Noah Galloway
And
Thought, man, that'd be amazing. Uh of course here it is at this point I'm twice divorced, have three kids. With x amount of weeks no contact back home. You get loaded off there's no contact back home. You stay with the crew. They keep everything quiet.
So I was like, thanks but no thanks. I have three kids here in Alabama and I can't leave for that. So I had to turn it down. And then another show called super cool, you know what I mean? And I was excited about it.
Ken Rideout
Uh
Noah Galloway
And it was on the tails of I had done Spartan Death Race.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
And 100 people showed up. I'm the only one with a disability and only 20 of us finished and I was one of them. So
Basically this show was going to be like the Death Race.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
Which I thought, man, that'd be even cooler if people could see how awesome I am. But again, I turned it down because I couldn't leave my kids for cuz it was going to be a TV show.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
It was like that that Death Race was 58 hours long.
Ken Rideout
Oh, wow.
Noah Galloway
But then it's over.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
But if you're making a TV show, it's going to be more than 58 hours. Yeah. They even told me they were like, look, we're inviting like professional athletes. It ain't going to be as hard as that Death Race you did. So already it was kind of a turn off. It was like, oh, so it's going to be watered down. Whatever.
Well, then I didn't expect anyone else to call. Then Dancing with the Stars called and I told them. I was like, I've never seen your show. I've heard of it. Like I had no desire to be part of it.
And they're like, we'll put you in a house in LA for the duration of the time you're here. And I was like, thanks but no thanks. I got three kids here in Alabama and I can't do that I can't leave them for that long. And then Deena Katz, the executive producer, was like, that's okay. We'll send the dancer to you and you rehearse in Birmingham for fly back and forth to LA for the live show. I was like, dang it. All right, I guess I'll do it.
And I thought I'd do like a couple weeks. I ended up doing all 10 weeks and came in third place.
Ken Rideout
Jesus.
Noah Galloway
So and I'm really grateful for it. Like the show was really good to me. Everyone that was there and the amount of attention I got, the amount of people that have reached out to me because of it. Like it was very inspiring and it motivated me to keep doing the show.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
Uh so I'm glad I did it, but
Ken Rideout
How was the dancing part?
Noah Galloway
I I sucked. You know what I mean? Like yeah, the fact I came in third like I was people liked me on the show. They told me I was getting all the the votes. Like you know, I brought in a demographic that never watched the show veterans. And for me it wasn't just like there were some people who could rehearse just a few hours each day and they were fine. I didn't know what I was doing so mine were hours long. And just trying to just do the bare minimum.
And so it was but it was an interesting experience. I'm glad I did it. Cuz it was very positive for me, but then once that was over I was like I'm not dancing anymore.
Ken Rideout
Did your kids like it?
Noah Galloway
They were so young. They they in fact my daughter doesn't remember it at all.
Ken Rideout
But your older sons must remember.
Noah Galloway
Yeah, yeah, they you know, they were my oldest son like he is always been my biggest supporter. Like he'll have my logo as a silhouette of me and our running my running blade and he would stick those stickers all over his dirt bike and everything. Now my other two kids it's not that they didn't appreciate it. But before I got custody of my oldest son, he was like an hour and a half away.
Ken Rideout
Okay.
Noah Galloway
So every weekend I'd pick him up and every Wednesday I'd pick him up from school and we just hang out in the area go bowl we did that for a couple years we went bowling. And then then when I got custody of him there was more time, but my other two even before I got custody of them we lived in the same area. So they would just be at the house all the time. And for them they dealt with even now my daughter who just turned 17 makes a joke about it, but if we go eat dinner her and I you know, go out to a restaurant she said oh no, if I go have dinner with you it's like we're having dinner with the entire town.
Cuz people are going to talk to me, you know, and I'm a talker so I'm going to talk back. But they as young children they learned to deal with that. If someone stops me they just kind of hang out and wait. So they weren't such like for them it's not that they weren't they didn't like the attention I got, but it affected them differently. Yeah. So, I would they weren't going to name drop me like my oldest son.
Ken Rideout
I got you. I got you. We were just down in uh Florida for the kids fall break and my wife had her college reunion, so she didn't come with us, which was which is so rare for her not to be with us. So, I was in the little village of them renting bikes for them and we're standing there and a guy who was into running was like, "Ken, oh, I'm such a fan. Can I get a picture?" And the kids were all standing there looking and they were like they were happy.
You know, they were like, "Oh, dad, that was cool." And I was, you know, it doesn't happen often, but it when it does it's funny when they're uh when they're there. It's interesting to see their reaction.
Noah Galloway
Well, you know, like for me I like it doesn't happen as much anymore. I always tell people it's been like 11 years since I was on Dancing with the Stars. In the reality TV world, that was 100 years ago. I don't exist anymore. Um so, when it does happen, like I love it. Yeah. And what's interesting about it is I always tell people I was introduced to fame just a small portion of it, just enough to see
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
How it affected other people.
Ken Rideout
Yes.
Noah Galloway
And I didn't want it.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
Like I love being the guy that people know around town. And even if I never would have been on Dancing with the Stars, look, I talk a lot, I mispronounce a lot. You're going to know who I am.
Ken Rideout
Yeah, exactly.
Noah Galloway
But as in fame goes I don't want it.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
You know, I've seen how uh how it affects affects people, their mental health. I will never be someone that you'll see on social media that ever says anything negative about someone who's in the spotlight. Like it's easy to do.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
But you don't know what they're going through. And
You make that comment and you think, "Well, they'll never see this." But what if they do?
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
I don't want to be that person that's putting negativity out there.
Ken Rideout
Yeah, it hurts someone's feelings.
Noah Galloway
What's funny is like when I was single and I'd gotten all this attention I mean it was it was strange because I would be out somewhere and there'd be a group of women that you know, a bunch of them recognized me, they're super excited to meet me and there'll always be that one female that would just want to just they thought they were doing something cool. I mean, I don't know who you are. Yeah. I don't know who you are. And just I'm like, okay, that's okay.
I don't know who you are either. I know what you know what I mean? Don't have to be rude about it. And then they the amount of times I've heard people say, you probably appreciate it when people don't know who you are. And I always want to be like, why would you think that?
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
And the example I'm going to use, I'm going to name drop somebody that I am friends with and this was before I got attention that I met this person and I have a lot of respect for him, Bret Michaels.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
From Poison.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
Uh and so Bret is non-stop.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
He's either doing big shows with Poison or he's hitting up little venues with his other band who's just Bret Michaels. And he just doesn't stop.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
And I was he came to Birmingham, so I went, you know, his manager was like, hey, we're going to be in town. So I went and I like hanging out backstage with him. And then I drove my motorcycle.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
And it's and in the back and he's like, is that your bike out there? I was like, he goes, let's go get a picture with it, you know what I mean? So we're going over there, take a picture, then we're talking and they were performing Def Leppard was also performing. And I've done other events with him and some other bands and now I'm not saying anything bad about Def Leppard. So I I I apologize for pointing them out, but I did say to him, I was like, Bret, you know what?
I got to tell you, you're aging better than your counterpart. You look amazing. And his eyes lit up.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
And he's like, no, that's why I love you. You know what I mean? Cuz and that the example the point I'm going to make is people think that celebrities like it when they're not noticed as celebrities. Now, not to say there's not some people out there that don't want to be recognized, but when you're constantly in the if if your job is to be in the public eye,
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
Well, you also know realistically that is going to end one day.
Ken Rideout
Yep.
Noah Galloway
And that's your identity. Veterans deal with it, you know, when you lose that identity. Well, they're holding on to it. So why would I not tell my friend, dude, you're killing it.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
You're doing awesome. You know, you're still popular, you look great, you sound great, everything. Why would you not want to hear that? Why would I come at with you to be that one person that's trying to give you Oh, cuz I had I had several friends that thought they were the only friend that were quote-unquote keeping me humble. Yeah, exactly. And I was like, you know, everybody I hang out with is an [ __ ] to me?
Ken Rideout
I know exactly what you mean.
Noah Galloway
Cuz they're all trying to humble you. It's like, no, you're all doing that. Maybe I like being told I'm cool.
Ken Rideout
Exactly. You see how hard I'm working at this?
Noah Galloway
Yes, exactly.
Ken Rideout
That's so funny. So, what are you doing now? What's your day-to-day like?
Noah Galloway
So, my day-to-day, I mean, hands down number one is my wife Amanda and we have our 3-year-old who'll be four next month. And I still have my daughter who's 17 that's in high school at the house. And then I've got my son Jack in basic training and my older son Coston who's in the Coast Guard. They're my main priority. Uh more than has ever been in my life. Like I I've told them constantly, I wish I'd have known this when you were younger. Their entire childhood would have been different.
Um but it's where I am and that's my main focus. Uh when I'm home especially with our 3-year-old, me, my wife, and our 3-year-old are always together. We have different, you know, story times that this library on Wednesday, this library on Thursday, this library on Friday. Yesterday we were at the zoo. You know what I mean? The other day we were at the fall festival. The couple days before that we were at a pumpkin patch. And then when things come up, I still do a lot of uh speaking, you know, whether it be fundraiser, corporate events, whatever it is.
And I do those. You know, and then little things come up here and there. Uh but at the same time I've been very fortunate because I don't put the effort in that I should to promote myself as a speaker. Uh cuz my wife's always like, you need to be putting this on social media. I'm like, yeah, it's fine. Um but I've been fortunate that I still have people that are reaching out to me.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
But it could be better. I'm not real good at posting on social media. And I'm not consistent. Like I know the things I need to be doing, but I'm not doing it.
Ken Rideout
Yeah, well, we could pull some good clips from this and hopefully we get you some attention as a speaker.
Noah Galloway
Yeah, like no, and that's what I need to be doing because I enjoy it. Yeah, I love being on stage. Yeah, I love uh sharing my story. Uh one of the best things I You know, when I get to go somewhere and be part of a program that I can sit and there's a moderator and we're talking, we're taking Q&A from the audience. Like I love that. Uh I want to share my story. I want to share the things I've learned about leadership or about, you know, mental health, all these different things.
Now, what's really in I got to bring it back is Remember what I mentioned I was in the Dominican Republic with a group of veterans? Well, two of the veterans I was there with, uh one of them Sam Juan, who is a female with the Army who what was one of the first females to volunteer and then was one of the first veterans to be embedded with SEAL Team Six.
Ken Rideout
Oh, wow.
Noah Galloway
Uh has a a lot uh in her story from childhood to, you know, trauma and then trauma in the military as a female, all these different things. And I I'm And then this other veteran from uh Oh, man, I'm embarrassed that I'm going to get the Norway. He's Dutch.
Ken Rideout
Denmark.
Noah Galloway
Denmark.
Ken Rideout
That would make sense.
Noah Galloway
Sorry, Anton, I got that wrong. But Anton Nootenboom, I may get that wrong, too. But anyway, this guy is amazing. Both him and Sam are so professional. Both have been deployed to either
Ken Rideout
Might be Amsterdam. Da- Danish is Denmark. Dutch is
Noah Galloway
He's from overseas. Let's go with
Ken Rideout
Somewhere in Scan- Definitely somewhere towards Scandinavia.
Noah Galloway
And and he's tall, long hair, like he looks like just, you know, like a model. Um but he was special operations and was deployed to Afghanistan and has dealt with a lot of mental health. And then he said he was living out in uh Australia in an area that you just stay barefoot. Now, where he's from, you don't walk around barefoot. But here he is in Australia. He's walking around barefoot. And then he decides to walk across Australia barefoot to raise awareness for men's mental health.
That does well, and he's like, "Well, there's got to be something else to get attention for mental health." Isn't like he's not someone looking for attention himself. This is a I mean, I know him well. He's a good human being. And so, he decided though he broke a world record for being the first person to walk to base camp at Everest barefoot.
Ken Rideout
Oh my god.
Noah Galloway
And I asked him, I was like, "Well, would you cover your feet at night?" He said, "No, the rules were he could never cover his feet the entire time." So, he does that, and he's also walked from LA to New York barefoot. So, this they call him the barefoot Dutchman. Amazing human being and so done so much mental health work and and encouraging other people to take care of their mental health. And right now, he's about to kick off out in Europe. He's going to do 26 marathons in 26 days all barefoot.
Ken Rideout
Good lord.
Noah Galloway
Going to break another record, and that's just constantly raising attention for men's mental health or mental health in general. Now, I meet him and Sam, and after a couple days, I pull them aside, and I said, "Listen, guys, I've had this idea for years, and y'all are the first people I want to share it with cuz I think y'all are who I need to do it with. As a speaker, I constantly had people that are like, 'I want to hear you speak,' but it's always, you know, private events that I'm doing.
So, I was like, "Well, how do I do these where it's open to the public?" Well, then I get into mental health. I'm like, "Well, how can we do more for mental health?" Well, I meet these veterans, and I say, "Hey, I want to create a program where we as veterans are traveling around, renting out venues, and putting on a show. I want it to be a show where we each, you know, 15-minute speeches, and share part of our story, and show that arc of our struggles, our depression, and how we overcame it.
You know, cuz I envisioned it as being something that between our three stories, someone's going to relate to something that we say, and see that there's a light at the end of the tunnel. So, we create this team, and then I said, "Hey, we need one more person. I want it to be moderated by someone who's a professional, like a psychologist or something like that." And Sam's like, "I know the guy." Sam ended up being the rockstar that has introduced us to everyone.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
And so then we got our fourth, Dr. Mike. He is a psychologist. He's also a Buddhist monk. You know, he you know, has been doing psychedelic assisted therapy for people for years. So, we have this team, and we're putting together this program called Unmasked Warrior.
Ken Rideout
Oh, that's cool.
Noah Galloway
Yeah. And so, and we're partnering up with different I don't want to mention them yet, but we're finalizing these deals with these sponsors so we can start putting together these programs. So, we can travel the country and do these shows. And on top Yeah, we're talking about mental health, but what's funny and I I love to put this out there. Our LLC is called the Trojan Horse. And I came up with that cuz I said, "Look, I want it to be called the Trojan Horse because if we called this a mental health
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
Event, no one would show up."
Ken Rideout
But if this is not the people that need it.
Noah Galloway
Yeah. But if if it's a veteran storytelling event, and we make it theatrical and enjoyable, but we're talking about mental health.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
Well, then we're kind of tricking them into it.
Ken Rideout
Yeah.
Noah Galloway
And you know, of course I'm not afraid to put that out there, but that's where it came from. But the program is Unmasked Warrior. And we're super it we're our first event looks like it is probably going to be in San Diego next year, and then we'll just start growing from there, and I'm super excited about it.
Ken Rideout
Oh, hell yeah. Well, we have to keep me posted, and I'll share it on my social media, for sure. Well, no, dude, you have an incredibly magnetic personality, you're fun to talk to. I feel like I could talk to you all day. Um thanks for driving up here from Birmingham
Noah Galloway
Oh, no. I I I've been so excited about doing this interview, about coming up here. I mean, it wasn't bad at all to drive up here and and see you and spend time with you, and I really appreciate it.
Ken Rideout
Well, thanks for being here, man. I'm like looking forward to continuing to watch your journey here, and I'm looking forward to seeing the Unmasked Warrior project come to life.
Noah Galloway
You.
Key takeaways
- Galloway says turning down Special Forces selection felt right because he did not want to leave his platoon during a dangerous deployment.
- At Walter Reed, he avoided other injured veterans while struggling to accept how his injuries changed his identity and future.
- Returning to a 24-hour gym helped him relearn exercise and eventually led to obstacle races that brought public attention.
- Therapy helped him recognize how his first marriage shaped his fear and mistrust in later relationships.
- He says psychedelic experiences mattered most when he integrated what he learned into daily life, including a ten-week meditation course.
- Unmasked Warrior pairs veterans’ personal stories with a mental health discussion for public audiences.
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